Talk:Felicity Lott
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Untitled
[edit]If she is "universally known as Flott…", how come this article doesn't call her that? HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 20:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Family
[edit]Pretty much every bio has a one-liner on family life if it's publicly known and particularly if it's uncontroversial, which this is. There is no sensible reason to cut it as "not encyclopedic." What on earth? - David Gerard 11:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Additional images
[edit]There are only three at Commons, of which the current lead image is an extract. For further images it might be possible to contact her website Martinevans123 (talk) 15:03, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- Go ahead, ask if one or the other can be released to the commons. No unfree image is possible once there is a free one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:07, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- Have emailed. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:22, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- They replied:
"Thank you for your message. All photos on the website are protected by copyright and not to be used on Wikipedia. Kind regards, Marina Lewandowski"
Martinevans123 (talk) 07:56, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
- Have emailed. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:22, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
Quotation
[edit]Do we need that quotation from Guardian both in lead and body? Grimes2 19:16, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- No, and not under Awards anyway. Perhaps the Wigmore detail should go to Career. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- My understanding was that material can’t appear only in lead section. Also WP:CITE? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- If it is only in the lead, it has to be cited there, - that's all. I think it's a good introduction for someone who wants to know what was great about her in one sentence, and they will not get to down in awards. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- My understanding of WP:LEAD is that the lead should be a summary of the entire article and should contain nothing unique. I'd agree that the quotation might be a "good introduction". Martinevans123 (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- I couldn't summarise better, thus the quote: it summarises many things from all over the article. Attributed quotes are the easiest way to escape copyvio. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- My understanding of WP:LEAD is that the lead should be a summary of the entire article and should contain nothing unique. I'd agree that the quotation might be a "good introduction". Martinevans123 (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- If it is only in the lead, it has to be cited there, - that's all. I think it's a good introduction for someone who wants to know what was great about her in one sentence, and they will not get to down in awards. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
Acceptance speech
[edit]Here she is accepting Gramophone's Lifetime Achievement Award in 2023. I know it's only Facebook, but still might be a useful source. Perhaps in External links? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:19, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Can we find that somewhere else? Facebook isn't even welcome for External links. - Did you read the Duffie interview there? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe, but so far unable to locate it on YT. Not sure how Facebook makes any difference for just being a video host. Pretty sure it's not a deepfake Martinevans123 (talk) 09:35, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Anybody can place anything on Facebook, that makes it suspicious. You can try it on External links and see what happens, - I won't remove it. I'd rather have examples of her singing and acting there, but am cautious because of copyright. Haven'f found one that looks 100% decent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- With or without any source, even if Facebook, I think the award deserves a mention. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:23, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Without source, we should not mention it, - this is Wikipedia: nothing without a source linked from the main page, true or not doesn't matter. Try to find one, seriously. The RAM ref has a lot of detail. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- I think this might do. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:36, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- yes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- I think this might do. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:36, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Without source, we should not mention it, - this is Wikipedia: nothing without a source linked from the main page, true or not doesn't matter. Try to find one, seriously. The RAM ref has a lot of detail. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- With or without any source, even if Facebook, I think the award deserves a mention. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:23, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Anybody can place anything on Facebook, that makes it suspicious. You can try it on External links and see what happens, - I won't remove it. I'd rather have examples of her singing and acting there, but am cautious because of copyright. Haven'f found one that looks 100% decent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe, but so far unable to locate it on YT. Not sure how Facebook makes any difference for just being a video host. Pretty sure it's not a deepfake Martinevans123 (talk) 09:35, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
Charting!
[edit]This article made the top 10 of this week's Weeklypedia with 320 changes by 47 authors. Kudos! Andrew🐉(talk) 14:38, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
- thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
GA review
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Nominator: Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs) 13:09, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: MSincccc (talk · contribs) 09:50, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability):
b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section):
b (inline citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Prose
[edit]- Life and career
- "From her earliest years she was musical" → "From an early age, she was musical"
- taken --GA
- Fluent in French and German, she wanted to become a French interpreter,[1][6] and later used her affinity to languages in her singing.
- I don't think we need the comma before "and".
- I think then a reader would still add "wanted to", no? --GA
- Hmm, I see the distinction. No worries, we’ll retain the comma. MSincccc (talk) 13:05, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think we need the comma before "and".
- "It was followed by performing as Natascha in Prokofiev's War and Peace and Roxane in Szymanowski's King Roger" → "This was followed by performances as Natascha in Prokofiev's War and Peace and as Roxane in Szymanowski's King Roger"
- taken --GA
- "obtaining a BA in French and Latin in 1969" → "where she obtained a Bachelor of Arts in French and Latin in 1969."
- taken --GA
- "and then Helena in Britten's" → "and then as Helena in Britten's"
- taken --GA
- "She portrayed the role also in a concert performance" → "She also portrayed the role in a concert performance"
- taken --GA
- "Her accompanist since her student days" → "Her accompanist from her student days"
- taken --GA
- "and they gave a great number of recitals" → "and they gave a large number of recitals"
- taken --GA
- On her 79th birthday, Lott gave an interview to The Observer,[21] in which she announced that she had cancer in a final stage.
- Drop the comma after "Observer"?
- done --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Honours and awards
- "and the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama in Glasgow" → "and from the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama in Glasgow" (parallelism)
- taken --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Lead
- We could link to obituary.
- I think it's common, and a distraction in the lead. --GA
- "She supported music organisations as member, vice president and patron." → "She supported music organisations as a member, vice-president and patron."
- taken --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Bottom line
- Gerda Arendt That's all for the prose. A fine read it was. MSincccc (talk) 11:12, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
Source-to-text spot check
[edit]- 1 – The source doesn't mention "German", but notes Universally known as ‘Flott’, she was born in Cheltenham and read French and Latin at Royal Holloway College.
- The Brachmann source has "affinity to languages" (plural), but it will be enough to say that for her singing. - "flott" is a German word with tons of meanings, "fast", "brisk", "stylish" ... - but to mention it to people who may not get a joke without an explanation is perhaps not what we want to do. If you know a good way to include it, feel free! --GA
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Done - 18 –
Done - 23 –
Done - 26 –
Done - 42 –
Done - Also, could we reduce the number of citations in the last sentence under Personal life to avoid WP?
- I ruthlessly cut the last two /The Time, because paywalled, and BBC, because short), and dropped two that are cited elsewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt That's all for the spot check. I look forward to your response, and then we'll be fine to proceed. Best, MSincccc (talk) 15:17, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for your responses. Fine to proceed. MSincccc (talk) 04:44, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]
- ... that Felicity Lott (pictured), among the leading voices in operas by Richard Strauss and operettas by Jacques Offenbach, appeared at the Glyndebourne Festival between 1976 and 2002? Source:
- ALT1: ... that Felicity Lott (pictured), among the leading voices in operas by Richard Strauss and operettas by Jacques Offenbach, had a special love for French mélodies and German lieder? Source: as other
- Reviewed: Snug Harbor
- Comment: Charming soprano in opera and especially recital, the latter pictured. I'm not married to hooks.
Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 3 July 2026 (UTC).
Article meets C1 (promoted to GA status today), is certainly long enough, meets wiki-policy guidelines. Hooks are cited; assuming that there's a missing "and" between melodie and lieder, I'd prefer the latter hook. QPQ hasn't been fulfilled, so when that's ready, I'll approve. @Gerda Arendt: — Knightoftheswords 12:31, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, and I added "and". - I did my qpq, and afaik we don't have to wait until it reaches an approval. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
Alright, should be ready to go! — Knightoftheswords 13:35, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
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