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Latest comment: 28 days ago by Knightoftheswords281 in topic Did you know nomination
Good articleFelicity Lott has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
July 3, 2026Good article nomineeListed
In the newsA news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on May 20, 2026.

Untitled

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If she is "universally known as Flott…", how come this article doesn't call her that? HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 20:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Family

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Pretty much every bio has a one-liner on family life if it's publicly known and particularly if it's uncontroversial, which this is. There is no sensible reason to cut it as "not encyclopedic." What on earth? - David Gerard 11:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Additional images

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There are only three at Commons, of which the current lead image is an extract. For further images it might be possible to contact her website Martinevans123 (talk) 15:03, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Go ahead, ask if one or the other can be released to the commons. No unfree image is possible once there is a free one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:07, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Have emailed. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:22, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
They replied:
"Thank you for your message. All photos on the website are protected by copyright and not to be used on Wikipedia. Kind regards, Marina Lewandowski" Martinevans123 (talk) 07:56, 21 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Quotation

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Do we need that quotation from Guardian both in lead and body? Grimes2 19:16, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

No, and not under Awards anyway. Perhaps the Wigmore detail should go to Career. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
My understanding was that material can’t appear only in lead section. Also WP:CITE? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
If it is only in the lead, it has to be cited there, - that's all. I think it's a good introduction for someone who wants to know what was great about her in one sentence, and they will not get to down in awards. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
My understanding of WP:LEAD is that the lead should be a summary of the entire article and should contain nothing unique. I'd agree that the quotation might be a "good introduction". Martinevans123 (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
I couldn't summarise better, thus the quote: it summarises many things from all over the article. Attributed quotes are the easiest way to escape copyvio. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 19 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Acceptance speech

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Here she is accepting Gramophone's Lifetime Achievement Award in 2023. I know it's only Facebook, but still might be a useful source. Perhaps in External links? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:19, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Can we find that somewhere else? Facebook isn't even welcome for External links. - Did you read the Duffie interview there? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Maybe, but so far unable to locate it on YT. Not sure how Facebook makes any difference for just being a video host. Pretty sure it's not a deepfake Martinevans123 (talk) 09:35, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Anybody can place anything on Facebook, that makes it suspicious. You can try it on External links and see what happens, - I won't remove it. I'd rather have examples of her singing and acting there, but am cautious because of copyright. Haven'f found one that looks 100% decent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
With or without any source, even if Facebook, I think the award deserves a mention. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:23, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Without source, we should not mention it, - this is Wikipedia: nothing without a source linked from the main page, true or not doesn't matter. Try to find one, seriously. The RAM ref has a lot of detail. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
I think this might do. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:36, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
yes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Charting!

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This article made the top 10 of this week's Weeklypedia with 320 changes by 47 authors. Kudos! Andrew🐉(talk) 14:38, 22 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 22 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

GA review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Felicity Lott/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs) 13:09, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: MSincccc (talk · contribs) 09:50, 2 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Prose

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Life and career
  • "From her earliest years she was musical" → "From an early age, she was musical"
    taken --GA
  • Fluent in French and German, she wanted to become a French interpreter,[1][6] and later used her affinity to languages in her singing.
    • I don't think we need the comma before "and".
      I think then a reader would still add "wanted to", no? --GA
  • "It was followed by performing as Natascha in Prokofiev's War and Peace and Roxane in Szymanowski's King Roger" → "This was followed by performances as Natascha in Prokofiev's War and Peace and as Roxane in Szymanowski's King Roger"
    taken --GA
  • "obtaining a BA in French and Latin in 1969" → "where she obtained a Bachelor of Arts in French and Latin in 1969."
    taken --GA
  • "and then Helena in Britten's" → "and then as Helena in Britten's"
    taken --GA
  • "She portrayed the role also in a concert performance" → "She also portrayed the role in a concert performance"
    taken --GA
  • "Her accompanist since her student days" → "Her accompanist from her student days"
    taken --GA
  • "and they gave a great number of recitals" → "and they gave a large number of recitals"
    taken --GA
  • On her 79th birthday, Lott gave an interview to The Observer,[21] in which she announced that she had cancer in a final stage.
    • Drop the comma after "Observer"?
    done --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 2 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Honours and awards
Lead
  • We could link to obituary.
    I think it's common, and a distraction in the lead. --GA
  • "She supported music organisations as member, vice president and patron." → "She supported music organisations as a member, vice-president and patron."
    taken --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 2 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Bottom line

Source-to-text spot check

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  • 1 – The source doesn't mention "German", but notes Universally known as ‘Flott’, she was born in Cheltenham and read French and Latin at Royal Holloway College.
    The Brachmann source has "affinity to languages" (plural), but it will be enough to say that for her singing. - "flott" is a German word with tons of meanings, "fast", "brisk", "stylish" ... - but to mention it to people who may not get a joke without an explanation is perhaps not what we want to do. If you know a good way to include it, feel free! --GA
  • 6 –  Done
  • 18 –  Done
  • 23 –  Done
  • 26 –  Done
  • 42 –  Done
  • Also, could we reduce the number of citations in the last sentence under Personal life to avoid WP?
    I ruthlessly cut the last two /The Time, because paywalled, and BBC, because short), and dropped two that are cited elsewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 2 July 2026 (UTC)Reply


The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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Lott in recital in 2018
Lott in recital in 2018
Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2184 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 3 July 2026 (UTC).Reply

  • Article meets C1 (promoted to GA status today), is certainly long enough, meets wiki-policy guidelines. Hooks are cited; assuming that there's a missing "and" between melodie and lieder, I'd prefer the latter hook. QPQ hasn't been fulfilled, so when that's ready, I'll approve. @Gerda Arendt:Knightoftheswords 12:31, 3 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Thank you for the review, and I added "and". - I did my qpq, and afaik we don't have to wait until it reaches an approval. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 3 July 2026 (UTC)Reply