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Latest comment: 10 months ago by 2A00:11B1:1002:7D:2AED:2C8C:1506:4D00 in topic They were not a militia but an official special operations unit

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Does the noun "Fedayeen" refer to the loose organization of fighters as a singular noun, or does it refer to many fighters, or both? I've noticed that in this article and on many news programs the two uses appear to be interchangeable and equally acceptable. Could someone with a knowledge of Arabic or Aramaic, preferably native, check this?--Yurtian 19:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

In Arabic, the term "Fedayeen" is plural, referring to the members themselves, but when using it in English, it is also being used to abbreviate "Fedayeen Saddam." This use should probably be avoided, and even edited out of the article if possible, by someone familiar enough to distiguish with certainty which occurrence is which. "Fedayeen" as a plural should be fine, but to those unfamiliar might be confusing, and thus should maybe be replaced with simply "members" or some other English term (Or Arabic term, if explained elsewhere). Disclaimer: Not a native speaker, just cursory knowledge of grammar, writing, etc. very generally. I am, however, 100% sure that's just the plural in Arabic. --Michael.Niemann 23:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Are there any sources to support this diatribe? Apparently not. I think Wikipedia could do better. I will try and find some or report back with a negative response and delete this entry. Sonicdeathmonkey (talk) 22:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

I am no expert, but there are pretty large accusations made in this article with no citation. Namely:

"The Fedayeen Saddam was not part of Iraq's regular armed forces but rather operated as a paramilitary unit of irregular forces. As a result of this, the Fedayeen reported directly to the Presidential Palace, rather than through the military chain of command. Whilst paramilitary the Fedayeen were not an elite military force, often receiving poor training and operating without heavy weapons.

The Fedayeen were among the most loyal organizations to the government of Saddam Hussein and were a politically reliable force against domestic opponents. The Fedayeen conducted widespread campaigns of assassination and intimidations, as well as organized smuggling and other illegal efforts along Iraq's borders.

The Fedayeen has been reported to operate a death squad that conducted extra-judicial killings.[citation needed] The Fedayeen were widely reported to have conducted an alleged anti-prostitution campaign in which more than 200 women were beheaded.[citation needed]

If there is no source provided soon, I feel it should be removed entirely. Unsourced accusations like that are simple slander and don't belong here. What is the process for deleting a section? Phoniel (talk) 09:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

They were not a militia but an official special operations unit

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Hello. I see that the fedayeen are called a militia in most English language sources despite I know that they were an official formation that firmly obeyed orders of Saddam Hussein, while Uday bore a title of their overseer(i am not sure of the connections between them in detail) and they could not act on their own in any case. Many of the ex-members of the Special forces and other units like Qays Al Azmi became brigadier generals of the fedayeen after they were formed, and their lecturing was going in the special force academy in kadhimiya and it was as you can see from photographs(can attach) same as those of the special forces- eating dogs, rabbits , bayonet fighting, and all that. You can see in the pictures or videos that the trainings are actually same. That they are an official SOU I know from Iraqis themselves. Including those who had relatives in them . This Al Jazeera article if we are looking for a source mentions them as a part of the ground forces but I can look for more sources so that there is what we can get this from by citing. 89.177.226.87 (talk) 10:45, 26 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

This is the same person commenting. I recommend to check this link, where it is stated it was ordered by Saddam to establish it, and on what they did but the year of formation unlike it is on the flags is said to be 1996, no idea why https://wiki.dorar-aliraq.net/iraqilaws/law/2139.html 2A00:11B1:1002:7D:2AED:2C8C:1506:4D00 (talk) 18:44, 26 September 2025 (UTC)Reply