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This article was originally created as "bad uses" (as a literal translation of the Catalan Mals usos).
We should use the WP:COMMONNAME as used in English for this article, if one can be established. In addition, looking at WP:TIES, WP:UE, and especially, WP:AT#English-language titles and taking all this and the data from some search results into consideration, I've renamed the article Evil customs based on the guideline, and the results of careful examination of usage of various terms in English sources in books, articles, and on the web.
Checking English language sources exclusively, the results show a slight preference for "evil customs", followed by "evil uses", followed by "bad uses" (the old name) in third place. Among the terms from Spain, there are mixed results, with Scholar preferring Catalan, and Books preferring Castillian, with web results about even. Web results are somewhat tainted by the original title of this article, which has already propagated to various mirrors and other websites, but since the overall choice depended more on books and articles, this doesn't matter very much. Neither of the Latin terms had many results. Note that the searches used additional terms such as Catalonia and other terms to guard against false positives.
search result data for title rename examination
Scholar: English articles only (no patents, no case law):
224: "bad customs" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
62 "bad uses" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
265: "evil customs" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
29: "evil uses" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
47: "mals usos" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
23: "malos usos" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
40 "malae consuetudines" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
17 "ius maletractandi" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
Books: English books only (requires regex to count results, as GG doesn't supply a count)
214: "bad customs" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
126 "bad uses" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
227: "evil customs" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
63: "evil uses" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
93: "mals usos" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
136: "malos usos" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
73: "malae consuetudines" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
71: "ius maletractandi" (Remensa OR Remença OR Catalonia OR serfs)
↑Note: be careful doing searches and ngrams: the first five results in Google books for "bad uses" are: 1)stables with low and dusty ceilings, poor drainage, ventilation poor, sanitarybad uses are from hell... 4) The assumption is that R1 is such that we know it can have bad uses. 5) Mutually supportive changes in values, incentives and laws are required to turn bad uses into good uses.
If you have additional thoughts about the article title, or the usage changes over time in English sources, please add a note. Mathglot (talk) 05:58, 27 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
