Talk:Eurostar

GA Reassessment

Eurostar

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Result: Issues with GA criterion 3. Needs cleanup and updating, as significantly out of date, especially when considering it only began operating in 1994. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:39, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm nominating this article for GAR as I believe it fails the "factually accurate and verfiable", "broad in coverage" and "focused" parts of the GA criteria.

This article passed GA about 14 years ago. Since then, Eurostar's history has changed significantly because of the merger with Thalys and the financial difficulties faced because of COVID-19 and Brexit. There are several maintenance tags on the article, and quite a few other unreferenced bits, and while I've addressed one of the tags by finding a reference, there's a lot more work required to get it back up to GA standard.

I'm also concerned that a family member works for Eurostar and hence I'm worried people might perceive me editing the article with a pro-Eurostar bias; so it's probably better for other people to work on this. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:54, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Much of the information in the lead and the body of the article about the Thalys merger talks about it happening in the future, yet the time that information was added is long past. Perhaps it needs a review and update. 10mmsocket (talk) 11:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

The impact of Brexit on Eurostar is not fully developed in the article. This source (New York Times, so far removed from events) discusses some of the issues in depth. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:33, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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Eurostar and Schengen

Moved from User talk:Bazza 7

 – after this revert

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Hi, agreed that problems existed because of not being a member of Schengen, but the statement is in the present tense and all the problems have been greatly exacerbated by our withdrawal from the EU. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 17:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

@Murgatroyd49: My reversion was due to a lack of referenced. Here's a couple of references to support your addition:

• https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/24/eurostar-trains-empty-seats-brexit-passport-rules-london-paris-brussels from 2023
• https://www.belganewsagency.eu/possible-restrictions-on-eurostar-services-due-to-future-post-brexit-passport-controls

The previous restrictions were around the problem of the Juxtaposed controls § Lille loophole which was eventually closed by separating passengers travelling from Brussels to Lille only from UK-bound travellers. A reference from that article seems suitable for reusing:

• https://web.archive.org/web/20200327221758/https://www.eurostar.com/uk-en/conditions-carriage

I've added text and the references, but it's a bit messy so open for copy-editing. Bazza 7 (talk) 14:10, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Murgatroyd49 (talk) 14:22, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Misleading chart

In the "Operational performance" section, the text and newly-added chart is misleading. It states that the data is "Cumulative ridership on the Eurostar", but it's a set of numbers for each individual year, and only for the London–Paris service. It should be renamed to "Annual ridership on Eurostar's London–Paris service". I've added a similar comment on c:Data:Cumulative ridership on the Eurostar.tab's talk page, and will move the data after a suitable period if nobody else comments or dissents. Bazza 7 (talk) 12:02, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

It also needs updating as it only covers to 2019. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 12:29, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

The current title appears to be the work of @Matrix, who may have more information. Bazza 7 (talk) 16:51, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

@Bazza 7 and Murgatroyd49: I didn't make the chart. The chart was disabled due to the Graph extension being disabled, so I moved it over to the Chart extension. I thought it was cumulative ridership by the surrounding text but clearly I forgot to actually check this. I have fixed all the details. Feel free to update the data at c:Data:Annual ridership on Eurostar's London to Paris service.tab to be more recent by the way (it's JSON). —Matrix _{ping me}^{when u reply} (t? - c) 17:29, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

@Matrix: That's very civil of you. Thank you. Bazza 7 (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi all, I want to propose a new chart to replace the existing Paris-London focused data. I couldn't find detailed enough information about other non-Paris-terminating London routes, so have proposed a new dataset and chart focused on Channel-based (ex-Eurostar) and other (ex-Thalys) services here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data:Annual_ridership_for_Eurostar_Group.chart Bridgr7 (talk) 18:43, 20 January 2026 (UTC)