Talk:Etzanoa

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Help! How do I ensure that searching "Rayados" on Wiki will lead to this page?Smallchief 14:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

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I believe the previous title of "Rayado Indians" was better than the present title of "Rayado Tribe." Could somebody change it back if you agree?Smallchief 10:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smallchief (talk • contribs)

Name and focus change

At first I was going to suggest a merge of Rayado Indians to Wichita people, because after a honest look, I could not find any references that suggested the Rayados a separate group from Wichita. There wasn't even published information about them as a distinct band of Wichita. However, the article wasn't about the people at all, but their settlement. Most of the information was outdated, based on a 1916 translation of the Spanish chronicles, so I updated to reflect the current information about Etzanoa. Yuchitown (talk) 18:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)Yuchitown

Possible council circle

https://www.heritagedaily.com/2020/09/survey-reveals-large-earthwork-at-ancestral-wichita-site-in-kansas/134957 might be an additional reference. Kdammers (talk) 04:38, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

After reading the article, it seems to me like each of the articles subsections is not fully introduced in the heading of the article. For example, the site tours are not discussed here. 156.26.45.87 (talk) 18:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Edit request: Identify the "local teen"

I have a conflict of interest because I am the unnamed "local teen" mentioned in this article.

I'd like to request that my name, Adam Ziegler, be added to the sentence if editors agree it is supported by reliable sources.

Proposed change:

"...local teen, Adam Ziegler,..."

Reliable sources identifying me: Lawrence Journal World: https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/may/16/lawrence-teen-played-crucial-role-uncovering-long/ NPR: https://www.npr.org/2017/05/10/527817921/kansas-archaeologist-rediscovers-lost-native-american-city PBS: https://www.pbs.org/video/positively-kansas-106-ycmnbe/ New York Post: https://nypost.com/2017/04/18/teen-accidentally-helps-discover-lost-16th-century-civilization/ Daily Mail: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4426312/Etzanoa-long-lost-city-believed-Kansas.html

I am not requesting to make the edit myself because of my conflict of interest. Adamz222 (talk) 18:11, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

I'm glad you found it, but who found it isn't as important as the cannonball actually being found. Maybe other editors will disagree with my comment? I reworded it to be more generic. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 19:34, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look, and I understand the caution. A few points for whoever reviews this:

The reliable sources don't treat the finder as an incidental detail. They treat it as the story. The Lawrence Journal-World headline is "Lawrence teen played crucial role in uncovering long-lost city of Etzanoa." The New York Post headline is "Teen accidentally helps discover lost 16th-century civilization." NPR and the Daily Mail also name me in their coverage. Per WP:WEIGHT, the article should reflect what independent reliable sources emphasize, and several of them independently considered the finder's identity significant enough to lead with.

On WP:BLPNAME, the usual privacy concerns don't apply here. My name was already widely published in connection with this event by national outlets, and I'm the person in question requesting inclusion.

The proposed change adds two words and stays entirely within what the already-cited sources support. That said, I recognize this is the community's call and I'll respect the consensus either way.

One unrelated note while I'm here: there's a typo in the article. "Locawtion" should be "location." I'm not making the fix myself given my declared COI, but it's uncontroversial if anyone wants to grab it. Adamz222 (talk) 19:14, 13 July 2026 (UTC)

As the creator and principal author of this article, I see no problem with adding the teen-age finder's name to the article.Smallchief (talk) 19:27, 13 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! Adamz222 (talk) 06:26, 14 July 2026 (UTC)