Talk:Etymology of carioca

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Explanation of the etymology in Léry's 1578 book

• ... that Carioca, the demonym for people born in Rio de Janeiro, is a word of Tupi origin meaning 'Carijó house', with Carijós being Guarani-speaking Indians from Paraguay?

• Source: Navarro 2013, p. 555: “Carioca. De kariîó, carijó, nome de grupo indígena com origem no Paraguai + oka (r, s): casa de carijós […] De nome de lugar passou a designar […] também os que nascem no Rio de Janeiro”

For the fact it is of Tupi origin, in addition to the source above, there is also Edelweiss 1967, p. 102, which likewise corroborates they were Guarani speakers. For this fact, there is also Navarro 2006, p. 197: “os carijós eram índios do Paraguai, falantes do guarani”. It is implicit that in the 16th century they spoke Classical Guarani, justifying the hyperlink.

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francisco Helder Braga Fernandes
  • Comment: I will fill “Reviewed” later.

Created by Yacàwotçã (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Yacàwotçã (talk) 10:01, 18 September 2026 (UTC).

• @Yacàwotçã: Reviewing.

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Overall: Please complete your QPQ within 24 hours of your nomination or it might be closed. I can't seem to find the source for Teatro (2006); do you have a copy of it available? The hook is way too long and unwieldy in my opinion. I propose the ALT1: ... that the word carioca was originally the name of a village? or something similar. Does Navarro (2005) have a page XXIII? I couldn't find the page in the linked copy. The sentence for Frederico Edelweiss [pt] argues the name originally referred to a dwelling of a Carijó or of Carijó Indians, which was transformed over time into a village is a bit awkward in its phrasing for "a dwelling of a Carijó or of Carijó Indians", although this is not needed to pass DYK. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 04:45, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

• @Kepler-1229b: thank you. I’ll complete it ASAP. As for Teatro, you can find it (illegally) on Z-Library or Anna’s Archive – I wouldn’t recommend it though 😉 Page XXIII probably refers to Navarro 2006 actually; I’ll check and fix if needed. I don’t oppose your suggestions regarding the hook and necessary copyedits, as I’m not an English native speaker. Yacàwotçã (talk) 04:56, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

I'll take a look at both sources now. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 04:57, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

P.S. The other pages of Navarro (2005) are verified already. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 05:00, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

P.P.S. Navarro (2006:XXIII) does not make reference to the word "karioka" or "kariîoka". 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 05:02, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Yacàwotçã: I have verified Navarro (2006). 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 05:10, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Marking for second opinion as I cannot approve my own hooks. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 05:28, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Kepler-1229b I think we cannot expect people to know broadly what "carioca" refers to, but I think your general construction is better, so what if I propose ALT1a: ... that the common word for people from Rio de Janeiro originated in the name of an ancient indigenous village? You should be able sign off on this one if you like it since I proposed it. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:20, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

ALT1a approved. Even better than my original hook. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 01:01, 20 September 2026 (UTC)