Talk:Ermengol I

Requested move 17 October 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved - No consensus that this disambiguation is required under WP:NCROY, low engagement from the community so no need for a re-list. (non-admin closure) FOARP (talk) 17:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Ermengol I → Ermengol I of UrgellErmengol I of Urgell
• Ermengol II → Ermengol II of UrgellErmengol II of Urgell
• Ermengol III → Ermengol III of UrgellErmengol III of Urgell
• Ermengol IV → Ermengol IV of UrgellErmengol IV of Urgell
• Ermengol V → Ermengol V of UrgellErmengol V of Urgell
• Ermengol VI → Ermengol VI of UrgellErmengol VI of Urgell
• Ermengol VII → Ermengol VII of UrgellErmengol VII of Urgell
• Ermengol VIII → Ermengol VIII of UrgellErmengol VIII of Urgell
• Ermengol IX → Ermengol IX of UrgellErmengol IX of Urgell
• Ermengol X, Count of Urgell → Ermengol X of UrgellErmengol X of Urgell

– All but the last of these were recently moved without discussion with the following rationale: Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE): Per WP:NCROY guideline and WP:AT policy. No need for the disambiguation. Of course, the name Ermengol does need disambiguation. The question is whether the appropriate disambiguation is a mere numeral or a numeral and land. I say the latter. The numeral is tied to the land. Srnec (talk) 00:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose and move Ermengol X, Count of Urgell to Ermengol X, per WP:SOVEREIGN. In the absence of clear consensus at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Titles of European monarchs, the guideline stands and the territory should not be used for disambiguation. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
• If we read WP:NCROY#Other cases strictly, shouldn't these be moved to "Ermengol NN, Count of Urgell"? Personally, I don't think pre-emptive disambiguation is useful in this case since "Ermengol NN" is unambiguous. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.