Talk:Erasmus Programme/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Merge?

don't think its appropriate to merge ESN page with the erasmus page because the two things are separate entities. One is an official E.C. program. The other is a student's association.

• Personally I wouldn't mind a merge if one of the articles was a stub however both are good articles in their own right and are capable of standing alone. -- Lochaber 08:35, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

There should be a link between these articles but they shouldn't be merged. The ESN doesn't represent all Erasmus students, for example it is not particularly active in the UK, but the information on the Erasmus Programme and the 'Erasmus Experience' are universal for all Erasmus students 129.12.200.49 16:16, 4 October 2005 (UTC)UK Socrates Erasmus Council

Europe-building?

I think it would be interesting to add something about the long terms effect on Europe of the Erasmus programme. Almost 1.5 million students have now lived in another country and made lots of European friends. This must be having an effect on culture and Europe as a whole. Anybody got any links to interesting data on this? Hamster128 10:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I read a newspaper article quoting the political scientist Stefan Wolff on this topic (see here). Cordless Larry 23:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Is this a coincidence?

Is it coincidence that the latest entries in the Dune series of novels includes a character with this name? The books are Dune: The Butlerian Jihad, Dune: The Machine Crusade, Dune: The Battle of Corrin, and Hunters of Dune. One more, Sandworms of Dune is due out next year. The character is a sentient robot. See more about this robot at Erasmus (Dune) Will (Talk - contribs) 02:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

mention award

Maybe we should mention the programme received the Prince of Asturias Awards for international cooperation in 2004 --euyyn 20:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Update in 2007

Quite a lot has changed recently. I have tried to incorporate some of the new stuff (like the new programme) and to add some info about earlier years. Raggio 22:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Spelling

(heading added subsequently)

++++ Also, program is continually misspelled. Correct this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.126.181.10 (talk • contribs) 2007-06-18

"Programme" is correct European English spelling. --Boson 11:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Spam Blacklist

There are several external links that are on the spam blacklists. I don't feel qualified to decide whether they or any variant of them should remain on or be removed from the page, but they're preventing further edits to the article. 69.138.244.13 (talk) 00:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

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Acronym

According to this page the acronym stands for "EuRopean Community Action Scheme for the Mobility of University Students" while on the European integration page it is explained as "European Region Action Scheme for the Mobility of University Students", which is the correct version? --Khajidha (talk) 15:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Criticism

How about a paragraph on criticism versus the programme, such as increase of subjects taught only in English and not in the native language for the benefit of Erasmus students, that many Erasmus students are only interested in partying, the costs etc.2A00:C440:20:E68:B88B:77C3:2962:3F10 (talk) 22:50, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

France, Germany and the United Kingdom were broadly hostile

By the time the Erasmus Programme was adopted in June 1987, the European Commission had been supporting pilot student exchanges for 6 years. It proposed the original Erasmus Programme in early 1986, but reaction from the then Member States varied: those with substantial exchange programmes of their own (essentially France, Germany and the United Kingdom) were broadly hostile; the remaining countries were broadly in favour.

I am writing about the history of Erasmus / Erasmus Student Network, especiall Germany. If anybody has a source or more information about it, I will be happy. Pleace contact me. --Maschinenjunge (talk) 21:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Merger proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was no consensus. MartinZ02 (talk) 19:03, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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I propose Erasmus Mundus be merged into Erasmus Programme. I began editing this article only to find that a substantially similar yet much fuller treatment of this subject is already present at Erasmus programme. I note in 2007 there was a commentleft herein that this page should be preserved. However the EU org itself treats "erasmus Mundus" and "erasmus programme" within the same context so it seems that wikipedia should do the same.ejly (talk) 03:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

erasmus is for European nationals, mundus is for third country nationals. The purpose and scope of these two different,even in the judgement of EU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.110.247.221 (talk) 10:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Erasmus Mundus doesn't exist as a separate programme anymore; it is a constituent component of Erasmus+. I am going to merge. Int21h (talk) 06:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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SMS and SMP

Hi, in this article we really need to include the terms SMS and SMP. These acronyms are used everywhere when applying for Erasmus. SMS is Student Mobility for Studies while SMP is Student Mobility of Placement. The former is for an Erasmus study exchange, while the latter is regarding the Erasmus traineeship experience (such as internship, etc.). It would help a lot of students if the information (and even what the acronyms stand for....) for SMS and SMP were included in the article. Where should we put it? --Blue.painting (talk) 16:00, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

I just implemented this addition of SMS and SMP, and I put it in the Erasmus Programme#Details section. Cheers. --Blue.painting (talk) 16:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Improvements

Hi, I'm it:User:Silvia bruni1, librarian at the University of Florence (Social science library). We organised a Wikipedia course. The Erasmus students improved this Wikipedia article.Silvia bruni1 (talk) 10:59, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Great, thanks! I also did a minor fix; in general <ref> tags come after the period of a sentence, unless it is citing something within the sentence. Best regards, --Blue.painting (talk) 11:29, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

erasmus murcia money ball

so many scholarship programs like erasmus among european countries .isep between the usa and europe..the strange thing is that the money should go to those who need it.. not to those who have best grades.in murcia many kids families have money to pay for private schools where they get better education and those very kids win scholarship money erasmus to go to other countries.. in a sense they recuperate the money spent on private schools.. its great to allow them to go but they shouldn't get any hand outs.. they can pay for the year.. the money should go to those with top grades and financial needs.. and then they should pay back by working for the public good..in other countries like germany france the money is help .not reward for good grades..the ability to go to be accepted is the reward..we work with hundreds of students in murcia who want erasmus americus and isept becas or scholarships and it really is scandalous when kids from super rich families who have private classes everyday in every subject form english to science..win the money .and the other kids who is a tenth of a point behind in grades loses. maybe its time to invest in ourselves and separate theses scholarships in 2 parts.. the money part should be limosna or a hand out.. not a reward for good grades..that way both kids go.. the rich kid pays and the other kids gets the money..money or free education is not a reward for good grades.. its an investment we all pay to help those unable to pay... and must be returned with public service — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.144.105.22 (talk) 08:22, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

teacher mobility

I added a paragraph about the Erasmus+ teacher mobility, which despite non being so popular as student mobility, belongs to the core part of the programme. Usually student mobility works well between two universities when also their teachers know each other and take part in the mobility, and agree to renew the Erasmus+ bilateral agreement when it expires (every 7 years, but the cycle duration may change in time). Erasmus23ab (talk) 22:30, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Proposed edits on the origins of the programme

Hello Wikipedia editors,

I am Anne, and I work for the Erasmus+ programme. While I understand there might be concerns about my affiliation, my aim here is to enhance the page's accuracy.

Indeed, I have identified some historical inaccuracies, particularly in the paragraph explaining the creation of the Erasmus+ programme, and I believe we should provide a more accurate account of its history for Wikipedia users. Based on my research and insights, the programme's origins can be traced back to a series of significant events that can be found on the official European Commission page of the programme:
- 1973-1976: first Education Action Programme at European level is established
- 1976-1987: laying the pre-Erasmus foundations with the “Joint Study Programme” (JSP) scheme in higher education. More and more universities and students start to take part, helping to build mobility and interchange partnerships and joint curricula development.
- 1985-1987: development and negotiation of the “Erasmus” proposal. In 1985, the Directorate for Education and Training presents its proposal to the Council and European Parliament. The “Erasmus” programme is adopted by the Council on 15 June 1987, and officially launched on 1 July 1987.

Your feedback and assistance are greatly appreciated to improve the page.

Anne AnneBurinDesRoziersChabot (talk) 09:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Possible puffery

I read this article (not in full), and noticed text resembling promotional material. I want some opinions on if to add a Puffery tag. Todot3123 (talk) 15:23, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

pages: Erasmus Programme and Erasmus+

Hi

I'm reaching out as someone who worked in the field of European education and mobility programmes.

I noticed that there are currently two pages linked to the Erasmus+ programme:

• Erasmus Programme – which is very detailed and has the whole history but uses the old name and is very higher education centered.

• Erasmus+ – which has the correct current name, as a programme covering all education sectors, youth and sport, but very little content

Would it make sense to consider one of the following options?

1. Keep “Erasmus Programme” as the main article and redirect “Erasmus+” to it, after enriching the content to fully reflect the current programme (2014–present). in that case, rename the page into „Erasmus+“
2. Keep both pages, with „Erasmus Programme“ covering the 1987–2013 period and „Erasmus+“ focusing on the programme since 2014

With a new Erasmus+ proposal for 2028-2034 just tabled by the European Commision (16 July 2025) it would be good to clarify which page to update. Keeping 2 entries might be confusing.

Happy to receive opinions

—UHB25 (talk) 14:52, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

The map lacks a legend

The map lacks a legend and is not as useful as it should otherwise be. Without the legend, one can only determine that there is or was some presence within the United Kingdom and Hungary, but one can not determine what that was. H.J. Fleischmann (talk) 17:39, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

Map caption not clear; history missing

The caption of the map is not clear "Countries participating in the Erasmus Programme" should be changed with "Countries which host a National Agency in 2026"; there are many other countries participating in the Programme (Northern Africa, Middle East, Caucasus, Asia Minor...) via National Agencies located in another country (formerly directly via Brussel). There is not much mention regarding several previous programmes: Youth For Europe, then Youth, then: Grundtvig, Leonardo, Comenius, Youth in Action, Erasmus, Jean Monnet, Trasversale. AlexanderFreud (talk) 15:19, 29 January 2026 (UTC)