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Latest comment: 6 months ago by Crisco 1492 in topic Did you know nomination

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:10, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that Emily Sutton illustrated a book where a boy wishes on a shooting star to be "un-alone" causing four Christmas ornaments to come to life?
  • Source: "Left alone by his preoccupied parents on Christmas Eve, Theo discovers four worn ornaments at the bottom of the decoration box: a tin soldier, an angel, a rocking horse, and a robin. Then a shooting star blazes by. “I wish to be un-alone,” Theo says aloud. Instantly, the decorations come to life. The rocking horse eats everything in sight (“pine needles, electrical cables, and the bottoms of curtains”), the robin yearns to sing, the angel to fly, and the tin soldier to find his love. Rundell (The Explorer) spins her tale with British civility (“Sorry,” Theo apologizes as the Christmas ornaments lay waste to his piano teacher’s sitting room, “Sorry!”), and the group’s exchanges provide smiles (“I have a feeling you’re supposed to brush your hair if you’re hoping to fall in love,” the soldier worries). With delicately brushed lines, detailed ink-and-watercolor vignettes by Sutton (A First Book of the Sea) supply just the right snow-covered, holly-sprigged atmosphere for a series of magical transformations—and some very real love." Publisher's Weekly
Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 198 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 19:50, 9 December 2025 (UTC). Reply

I'm sorry, but unless there is an image (which probably wouldn't work due to copyright concerns), I do not see how ALT1 as currently written is interesting. I imagine most of our international readers do not know what Castle Howard is or its significance, or why her designing a Christmas show there is a big deal. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:22, 19 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it's not a good hook. Just trying to see what I can try to do for Christmas. Perhaps ALT2: that The Times named a book illustrated by Emily Sutton, in which a boy's wish causes four Christmas ornaments to come alive, as one of the best children's books of 2017? Thriley (talk) 19:46, 19 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Thriley: We already have a surplus of Christmas-related DYK hooks, so there is a possibility this won't run on time. Is a non-Christmas related hook possible? If not, I could accept a variant of ALT2. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:51, 20 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Narutolovehinata5: I see two open spots in the Christmas set, if there are other hooks to fill those, I’ll make a new hook that isn’t Christmas related. Thriley (talk) 05:08, 20 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Thriley: I think those are already being reserved for other, more explicitly Christmas-related hooks, so again, no guarantee. I think it would be better to just propose a new hook to be on the safe side. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:22, 20 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
  • I've given this some thought, and I don't think the hook works for Christmas. The Christmas aspect feels tacked on, as if it was written just to force the hook into being a Christmas hook, without it feeling organic. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:05, 22 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
    • ALT2: ... that Emily Sutton "lavishly illustrated" an abridged children's edition of Shakespeare's First Folio with "red-cheeked gentlemen, sword-wielding warriors and ladies in striking attire"? Thriley (talk) 19:23, 24 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
      • Full review needed now that new, non-Christmas hook has been proposed and previous hooks have both been struck. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:37, 29 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
        I looked at the article and the hook. I don't believe we need the quote marks but could simply say "illustrate", because what is described is lavish enough. The article is long enough, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. In the article I wonder why so many super-short paragraphs, and why her dog is mentioned but not her partner, Mark. The first source has much more detail about her growing up. This is not needed for DYK, but worth a thought. I'd also give her an infobox. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 6 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your review. From my research I discovered that Sutton is no longer in a relationship with Mark Hearld. Thriley (talk) 21:41, 6 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
ALT2a: ... that Emily Sutton illustrated an abridged children's edition of Shakespeare's First Folio with "red-cheeked gentlemen, sword-wielding warriors and ladies in striking attire"? Thriley (talk) 19:44, 23 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Gerda Arendt: I combined the short paragraphs and offered a shorter hook. Any other issues? Thriley (talk) 19:47, 23 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I approve the hook. In the article, it takes too long for my taste until we know that she is a living woman. Illustrations of Shakespeare could have been made over centuries. I'd give her a short infobox, and/or mention a publication date of one of her books in a bit more of a lead. Or whatever you come up with. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 23 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

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@Thriley:, thank you for writing the article. I notice that many of the references are incomplete, for example there are 5 bare links to Publishers Weekly and the title of a Telegraph article is entered as "Access Restricted". Also many references are missing "website=" or "work=". Please could you have another look and tidy them? I have added a template to display dates as day, month, year, as that is standard for British subjects. TSventon (talk) 20:32, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for noting this. I will fix them up soon. Best, Thriley (talk) 20:48, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Thriley:, also, I think the DYK hook fails WP:DYKFICTION as it is not focused on a real-world fact. TSventon (talk) 03:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)Reply