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Anti semitism in English identity, statement in the lead

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An editor via IP edits has twice removed the sentence: The expulsion had the lasting effect of embedding antisemitism into English culture from the lead. In the body of the article the following is found, in "Significance":

The expulsion had a lasting effect on medieval and early-modern English culture. Antisemitic narratives became embedded in the idea of England as unique because it had no Jews. Jews became an easy target of literature and plays, and tropes such as child sacrifice and host desecration persisted.[1] Jews began to settle in England after 1656,[2] and formal equality was achieved by 1858.[3] According to medieval historian Colin Richmond, English antisemitism left a legacy of neglect of this topic in English historical research as late as the 1990s.[4] The story of Little Saint Hugh was repeated as fact in local guidebooks in Lincoln in the 1920s, and a private school was named after Hugh around the same time. The logo of the school, which referenced the story, was altered in 2020.[5]

I think the lead summary is justified from that, but I am going to qualify it as "especially in the medieval and early modern period." The sources, especially Richmond as cited argue the legacy continues into the C20th and this is also reflected above. I do not think there is a justification for removing the statement. As per WP:STATUSQUO the text should remain on page while this is resolved here. Jim Killock (talk) 21:47, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have also clarified how the antisemitic beliefs related to the expulsion, being that there was a belief that England was unique because it had no Jews, and that the English had superceded the Jews as the chosen people. Hopefully that is clearer now. Jim Killock (talk) 17:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Further sources, not exhaustive

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Ref. talk

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References

  1. Richmond 1992, Strickland 2018, Shapiro 1996, p. 42, Tomasch 2002, pp. 69–70, Glassman 1975
  2. Roth 1964, pp. 164–6.
  3. Roth 1964, p. 266.
  4. Richmond 1992, p. 45.
  5. Martineau 1975, p. 2, Tolan 2023, p. 188

Unfalsifiable claim that the "expulsion embedded antisemitism into English culture"

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The unfalsifiable claim of the "expulsion embedded antisemitism into English cculture" should not be included. If you find a source that makes th8s claim, they are making a claim that is not prooveable by any evidence. But I'll leave that to editors to decide if this is an empirical statement or an unprovable assertion. I don't know if Wikipedia allows unprovable assertions if a source claims it. The way I see how Wikipedia's rules work, unprovable-assertions may be allowed if a so-called reputable source makes such an assertion. If that's how this website operates, I guess we can leave it be. I just thought I would bring this to the attention of editors. ~2025-41514-57 (talk) 13:31, 2 March 2026 (UTC)Reply