Talk:Edeko

Language

Besides being a stub, would someone with the appropriate skills translate this into English. Please. Io 15:44, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry, I know I did'nt wrote it in very good Inglish. I will try it again with the little help of a dictionary--Anneboer 17:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I'll try and help. Is this what you had in mind:

Edeko was for some time the chief of the Skirs. He was the father of Odoacer, who became magister militum in the Roman Army and king of Italy.

In the middle of the fitfh century the Skirs were a Germanic Tribe, vassals of the Huns and Edeko was a famous person at the court of Attila, in the same way Ardarik was, the king of the Gepids. According to written sources he kept Attila (under attack for the rest of his life?) (or protected Attila with his life?). In the battle of Chalons Edeko fought at the side of the Huns.

PS: The question marks are due to the fact that I can only read very simple texts in Dutch, and if Dutch is translated into nearly incomprehensible English, most must give up.

I hope this has helped. Don't let my criticism bother you. We all have to face them now and then. Alles Gute (yes I know, but it the closest I can get to Dutch). Io 18:38, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

PS Anneboer, you might consider setting up a User Page, so that discussions can take place there. Cheers Io 18:40, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Edekon

Sorry what is this for shit? Edekon is one person, Leader of Turingi and Sciri, General under Attila, in Cooperation with Gepide Ardaric and he is father of Odoaker. Odoaker was king of Turingi and Sciri. Your sources from 1973 and 1982 is to old. The historic source is Jordanes, Getica 277; Malchus of Philadelphia, Fragmente 8;Priskos, Fragmente 7 and 8; Herwig Wolfram: Das Reich und die Germanen. Zwischen Antike und Mittelalter, 1998, ISBN 3-442-75518-2, S. 264 and much other younger Books. A hunnic name, why not but he is not a Hunne.

Proposed Merge

I suggest that the article Edeco (which was created recently) be merged into this article, Edeko, as this is the older article and they seem to be about the same subject. Patr2016 (talk) 03:29, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

• support I was thinking the same thing. Subjects are the same and the info there can be easily integrated here.—Ermenrich (talk) 11:32, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Srnec (talk) 00:33, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

  Y Merge completed Klbrain (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

removing unsourced genealogical trivia

I removed this, which had been tagged a year earlier: "This same Ediko [the father of Odoacer] is also claimed a few hundred years later as an ancestor of the ducal House of Welf (a branch of the House of Este), which is one of the ancestral houses of the House of Hanover; the Hanoverian family produced several royal dynasties, and survives to the present-day." Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:40, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

I think you did the right thing.--Ermenrich (talk) 15:27, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

I am also removing this, at least for now. I don't have strong concerns about it, but I think I can replace it with better sources, and a more focused text. The sources are not used anywhere else in the article for now. Maybe this material will be helpful at a later date, because Priscus actually said a lot about Edeko. However I think his association with Orestes, and certain other aspects are particularly important to get into a primary position in the buil up.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

According to Priscus, this Edekon distinguished himself for courage and skill in the battles of [[Naissus]] and the [[Uthus river]], during the invasion of the [[Eastern Roman Empire]], thus becoming part of [[Attila]]'s circle of favorite advisors, so much so that he put him in charge of a diplomatic mission in [[Constantinople]], where the court treasurer, [[Chrysaphius]], tried to bribe him to assassinate his king. Edeco seemed to agree, but as soon as he reached Attila's court he informed him of the plan and the Hun monarch unmasked the Roman ambassador.<ref name=":0">{{cite book|author=[[Michel Rouche]]|translator=Marianna Matullo|title=[[Attila]]|series=I protagonisti della storia|year=2019|publisher=[[:it:Salerno Editrice|Salerno Editrice]]|location=[[Pioltello]]|page=107|volume=14|chapter=VI- L'apogeo di Attila (435-452)|issn=2531-5609}}</ref><ref name="Kelly">{{cite book |last1=Kelly |first1=Christopher |title=Attila The Hun Barbarian Terror and the Fall of the Roman Empire |date=2011 |publisher=Random House |isbn=9781446419328 |page=134 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=f-YN6NwHqq4C |access-date=26 October 2022}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last1=Man |first1=John |title=Attila The Hun |date=2010 |publisher=Transworld |isbn=9781409045366 |page=391 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=2m0c0rqzgUgC |access-date=26 October 2022}}</ref>

Also moved out this one for now: Babcock, Michael A. (2005). The Night Attila Died Solving the Murder of Attila the Hun. Berkley Books. p. 273. ISBN 9780425202722. Retrieved 27 October 2022.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 17:54, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Opening line awkwardness

Perhaps we can simplify the opening lines by defining the article topic in terms of the Edekon records which are most detailed, and discussing the other records and proposed connections as a second point. I suppose the article also needs to emphasize fairly early that he is believed to be one person by a lot of scholars. Something like this?

Edeko (with various spellings: Edekon, Aediko, Edica) was a prominent military chief under Attila the Hun, who was sent on a diplomatic mission to Constantinople in 448/9 which was reported in detail by the Roman diplomat Priscus of Panium.

Scholars generally also believe that this Edeko was mentioned in other records as one of the two chiefs of the Scirii in 468/9 after the death of Attila, and as the father of two well-known notable brothers Odoacer and Onoulphus, who fought for Rome, but were also associated with Scirian military forces. However, there is a chance that these records concern as many as three different people.

Maybe others can play with it. Andrew Lancaster (talk) 21:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)