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Latest comment: 3 years ago by Visionhelp in topic pale as choice of word not exact enough, please

A source and further description

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It reminds me to Composting in place, Direct composting, but in a different way; also Compost In-Situ www.growveg.com how-to-compost-in-situ.
Composting in place I know as burying the green, natural (fast degradable, rotting) wastes into soil to growing plants; breaking down, composting, within about 4 weeks. (I think, this works there from better, healthy soil, or compost, or the "topsoil from the forest", instead of layers just of mud, as it is said for this method here.)
This method here is (´just´) BEFORE growing plants, I would, I want to, say it this way.
Description and source at the sub-title ´Ecuador on-farm composting´ in http://www.fao.org/3/y5104e/y5104e06.htm, as pdf: http://www.fao.org/3/y5104e/y5104e.pdf
(2. Small-scale composting), FAO: FOOD AND AGRICULTURE ORGANIZATION OF THE UNITED NATIONS, Rome, 2003, http://www.fao.org/3/y5104e/y5104e00.htm.
--Visionhelp (talk) 15:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Up to date: if changing this method in little points to as Back to Eden Gardening Method or as Ruth Stout´s method or similar, (at least) then "ash and phosphate rock" (Wikipedia Phosphate rock, redirects to Phosphorite) is not necessary.
There are, as base either healthy, lividly soil or just clay (loam): the 1st layer compost (comparable, alternative to "topsoil from the forest"), the 2nd (animal´s) "manure", the 3rd "crop residues" (any natural green material, green wastes).
The need of nitrogen (of "crop residues", any natural wastes) for the composting process is provided by the manure, dung (see: Nitrification).
But also what is when available, and which time of the year, and which (current) plant´s needs: these layer´s order, succession, are not a must.
(For possible combinations; and but at all: nothing saying against layers of ´mud´ (clay, loam).)
Visionhelp (talk) 07:47, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Some more details, please:
Categorized there (http://www.fao.org/3/y5104e/y5104e06.htm) under
´Rapid Methods´: 2 or 3 months in warm climate, and:
´Aerobic high temperature composting´: 60 - 70 °C.
But the Phosphate rock I want to insist on a reliable other, different source.
As said, also there, in the method ´Composting organic materials with high lignin content - lime treatment´, (quote) "Phosphate rock contains a lot of lime. The phosphates and micronutrients contained in phosphate rock make composts rich in plant nutrients." means, can only mean, related (as still named in the title the "lignin-rich plant materials", and further "hard plant materials", but these also related to lignin-containing, acidly, I understand) to these.
Lime is alkaline, leveling up the ph. But this can not be necessary in the ´Ecuador composting method´ basically, but my opinion just.
Visionhelp (talk) 00:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

pale as choice of word not exact enough, please

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If with pale is meant a trunk, as a meaningful detail point (of this technic, practice), it should be more exact, and a more exact picture of it would be very helpful, too.
Visionhelp (talk) 08:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)Reply