Talk:ESIM

"Most phones and tablets released in 2018 or later support eSIM technology"

That's false, even 8 years later only flagship pro ultra super phone versions support eSIM Gratecznik (talk) 13:34, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

Edit request (COI): short paragraph on travel eSIM pricing

Disclosure: I am affiliated with Horizon eSIM (horizonesim.com), a company that sells travel eSIMs and that published one of the three proposed sources; this request is made on the company's behalf. I have a conflict of interest, so I am requesting the change here instead of editing the article myself.

Specific text to be added (as a new section before "See also", or merged into the second paragraph of the lead, at reviewers' discretion):

== Travel eSIMs ==
Travel eSIMs allow a traveller to use a local or regional network abroad instead of paying roaming charges; they are usually installed by scanning a QR code, and their price varies by destination, data allowance and provider.<ref name="lunn" /> In the Western Balkans, where EU and Western Balkan telecom operators have voluntarily agreed to cap retail data roaming between the two regions at €18 per gigabyte from October 2023, €14 from 2026 and €9 from 2028,<ref>{{cite web |title=Significant reduction of data roaming prices between Western Balkans and EU to start as of 1 October 2023 |url=https://enlargement.ec.europa.eu/news/significant-reduction-data-roaming-prices-between-western-balkans-and-eu-start-1-october-2023-2022-12-06_en |website=European Commission – Enlargement and Eastern Neighbourhood |date=6 December 2022 |access-date=10 September 2026}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title=Affordable Data Roaming: Bridging the Gap Between the EU and the Western Balkans |url=<<link redacted>> |website=WeBalkans |publisher=European Union |access-date=10 September 2026}}</ref> one travel eSIM provider's July 2026 published prices put single-country 10 GB plans for Albania, Montenegro, North Macedonia and Kosovo at about €1 to €2 per gigabyte, and an eleven-country regional plan at about €3 per gigabyte.<ref>{{cite web |last=Kasumaj |first=Lurian |title=The price of a gigabyte in the Balkans: a 2026 price-per-GB study |url=<<link redacted>>|website=Horizon eSIM |date=16 July 2026 |access-date=10 September 2026}}</ref>

Reason for the change: The article covers the standard and device history but says nothing about travel eSIMs, one of the main consumer uses of the technology (the Forbes Advisor source already cited discusses it). Its only pricing-related sentence ("many eSIM plans only provide data and do not include a phone number") rests on a vendor blog. The proposed paragraph gives a sourced, numeric picture: the operator price-cap glide path from the EU–Western Balkans roaming agreement (official, independent sources) and a dated example of travel eSIM prices in the same region.

About the Horizon source: it is a primary, self-published source from a commercial vendor, and the figures are Horizon's own published retail prices on 16 July 2026, not a market-wide survey. I understand it may not meet WP:RS. In its favour, the method is stated (retail price divided by gigabytes on the 10 GB, 30-day plan), the dated baseline is archived on the page, and the raw data can be downloaded as CSV/JSON. If reviewers judge it unsuitable, the paragraph still works without the final clause, on the existing Forbes reference and the two EU sources alone; I would rather that neutral part be added than nothing.

References supporting change:

• https://enlargement.ec.europa.eu/news/significant-reduction-data-roaming-prices-between-western-balkans-and-eu-start-1-october-2023-2022-12-06_en
• https://webalkans.eu/en/stories/affordable-data-roaming-bridging-the-gap-between-the-eu-and-the-western-balkans/
• <<link redacted>>
• The article's existing Forbes Advisor reference (ref name "lunn") for the first sentence.

Luuuri90 (talk) 16:28, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

We're not a catalog or a sales guide, so we can do without pricing information. Your site is definitely not WP:RS, no. Neither is the Forbes link. (see WP:FORBESCON). PS: Do not submit LLM generated text to Wikipedia. That alone is also a reason to reject this. - MrOllie (talk) 17:06, 10 September 2026 (UTC)