Talk:Drought in Turkey

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that ways to combat drought in Turkey include better protecting river basins, building underground dams, rainwater harvesting, using more grey water, and praying for rain? Source: "imams and their congregations ..... pray for rain", The Guardian
  • ALT1:... that officially sanctioned methods to combat drought in Turkey include better protecting river basins, building underground dams, rainwater harvesting, using more grey water, and praying for rain? Source: "imams and their congregations ..... pray for rain", The Guardian

• Reviewed: Al Balabil (musical group)

Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC).

• New enough, long enough, QPQ checks out. Nothing on earwig. Hook is sourced, but seems quite generic to all drought. Is it trying to make a specific point about the call for prayer? I can see the hooky appeal from the source ("led the religious affairs directorate to instruct imams and their congregations to pray for rain"), but I don't think this comes out that clearly in the proposed wording. It might be more interesting to specifically focus on the prayer instruction. I would also suggest expanding the lead a bit further. CMD (talk) 13:29, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I have added a tad more to the lead. The hook idea was to start generically and then surprise the reader. If you or anyone else has a suggestion for an alternative hook I will be glad to hear it. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:17, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I understand the hook idea, but I don't think it quite comes off without the context that it was an official government order. An alternative to creating an alternative hook might be adding "officially sanctioned methods" to the start of ALT0, eg. "...that officially sanctioned methods to combat drought in Turkey...". CMD (talk) 15:16, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

OK fine Chidgk1 (talk) 05:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Passing, the promoter is welcome to go with the original hook given the preference of the nominator if they feel my view on the wording was a bid too pedantic. CMD (talk) 07:17, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Merge 2025 Turkey water crisis into Drought in Turkey?

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was not to merge. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:47, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

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@AirshipJungleman29 @Entranced98 @Bogazicili @FromCzech @Surtsicna @Eitanloi @NezyKnowsThings @Sheila1988 @Basketballer7309 @Exobiotic or anyone else interested.

@TonyFerro is probably right that this was discussed previously, but it was likely an informal discussion. Now that the article has been through DYK and the year has almost finished this is formal.

I propose this merge because:

1) 2025 Turkey water crisis contains a lot of general info which I think will be useful in understanding past and future droughts.

2) That article is short and not likely to be expanded much.

3) I would like to bring this article up to good standard and I will find it easier if 2025 is all included. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:20, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

It was a very formal discussionת as you did on my DYK nomination, which held it back. So that is pretty formal in anyone's opinion. Merging it on your own opinion, even though enough user opposed to the move in the past, seems like a violation of Wikipedia rules, ideas and spirit. Your opinion was viewed, judged and rejected. Please do not continue with this behavior. TonyFerro (talk) 16:28, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Ah yes I remember now a merge was strongly opposed in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Turkey water crisis by @Katzrockso. I agree with them that there will be “significant impacts in the future”. But I think that is a reason for merging as more people are likely to read the info in a merged article. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

It's Notable on it's own, So no. HumbleApple Basketballer7309 (talk). 17:43, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, the 2025 article is notable, however general information from it could be added to this article, if relevant and not a duplication. Exobiotic 💬 ✒️ 18:40, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

I do not agree that this is not likely to be expanded much. I don't think we have looked at many Turkish language sources and we still have yet to see retrospective coverage of this in more secondary sources like the academic literature. I'm sure this will help broaden the perspective. Katzrockso (talk) 04:17, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Oppose For all the reasons i gave above TonyFerro (talk) 15:46, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, this has been going on for more than 1 year CWikiedits1 (talk) 17:59, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

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Relevance of "moisture in the root zone" can be explained better

Currently there's an image on the page with description: "Moisture in the root zone — the top meter of soil — on 11 January 2021. Dark red denotes less than 2% moisture."

Without information that contextualizes this, the severity of the 2% figure isn't clear. Ozan Ogreden (talk) 12:42, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

Houborg et al. (2012) brings the percentile scale closer to its context.

Their Figure 9 places GRACE-based root zone soil moisture percentiles alongside the U.S. Drought Monitor (panel b) for August 2007, using the identical color scale. The darkest red corresponds to the 0–2nd percentile, equivalent to D4 "Exceptional Drought", the most severe classification.

While we're at interpreting: unlike raw GRACE anomalies, the percentile data are "directly comparable, both being representative of drought severity relative to location and season specific dry events," and that root zone soil moisture percentiles specifically indicate agricultural drought — conditions affecting surface soil moisture and vegetation — as distinct from hydrological drought affecting deep water storage. Ozan Ogreden (talk) 14:15, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

@Oguzhanogreden I don’t totally understand as I am not an expert but it would be great if you could fix it. Any problems with editing let me know altough I may be slow to reply Chidgk1 (talk) 15:02, 27 May 2026 (UTC)