Talk:Doug Gilding

Did you know nomination

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Launchballer talk 21:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

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• ... that Doug Gilding has served nearly 30 years in prison, sentenced to life without parole under the felony murder rule, for a murder committed while he was home asleep in another county?

• Source: ["A Ten-Minute Conversation, A Lifetime Behind Bars: The Story of Doug Gilding"]. Georgetown Prisons and Justice Initiative. YouTube. 2025-05-12. Retrieved 2025-06-15.

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Created by InspiredByGeorgetownPJI (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

InspiredByGeorgetownPJI (talk) 18:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - See comments
• Neutral: - See comments
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - See comments

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - See comments
• Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: A lot of concerns for this nomination, unfortunately. I understand that this is your first nomination, and this is literally you first article, so everyone would've made mistakes anyways. (I did as well, they don't even exist anymore...) First, pretty high hits on earwig (50+%) with hits that could've been avoided by writing it differently. The hook and a lot of the article is sourced to a Youtube video published by "georgetown prisons and justice initiative". This is a private school, and therefore I severely doubt its reliability. (Sorry if I missed something about this.) I guess from your edit summaries, you're a fan of their works but DYK won't really consider such hooks presentable, and even if I passed it they'll just be pulled (removed) anyways. Either way, a lot of work to be done here. Oh yeah, please don't upload copyright violations to commons, thanks. Self-trouted. AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 13:11, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

@AlphaBetaGamma:: Due to problems of primary sources on a BLP and potential COI, I've moved the article to draftspace as I believe this subject could still be notable. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 13:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

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Response to your Talk page question

~2026-34066-75, Responding to your question at your Talk page: For starters, look at Wikipedia:Notability (people), and in particular, WP:CRIME as it applies to perpetrators. Note that WP:BLP1E applies, but "[having] a large role within a well-documented historic event" probably does not. Furthermore, the question of "wrongfully convicted" has not been decided. That says to me that this content may be better placed in an article about a larger topic; perhaps Felony murder rule (Florida)Felony murder rule (Florida). Currently no article exists for that topic (that blue link is a redirect), and the topic is almost without question notable. So one option would be to redirect your efforts toward writing an article on that topic, where a summary of the content in this Draft could be included. The other option is to carry on with this Draft, and try to demonstrate Notability.

To see if the topic of this Draft meets the WP:GNG, I went through the citations in rev. 1360152782 of 15:45, 19 June 2026. I didn't check all 28 of them, as I rejected three YouTube refs (one might be reliable anyway, as it is from NBC News, but print is preferable), and six WP:PRIMARY sources (four inmate pop.; two court docs). I tossed out seven refs as having no coverage of Gilding at all (#16 Grodin-2019, #17 Grodin-2014, #19 Tedesco-2021, #20 Farrell-2025, #24 Ouzts-2016, #25 Liptak-2007, #27 Wallace-2015). I discounted three refs as having some coverage, but not contributing toward Notability: ref #4 (Gilding-2022) is non-independent (written by Gilding); #5 (McGivern-2022) mentions him just once in passing; #6 ("Making An Exoneree"-2025) has an 88-word blurb about a film; it does not count as SIGCOV. I skipped checking the Orlando Sentinel articles as there were eight of them (#2, 7, 8, 9, 11, 21, 22, 23), and they are probably your best bet in meeting SIGCOV, assuming they are independent of each other and cover the topic in detail. Mathglot (talk) 04:19, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Mathglot! Thamk you so much for taking the time to look over the page! There is so much to the whole wiki-page editing deal...phew! I've had to go read each of the guidelines to see what they are. The self-published and Youtube guidelines seem to have exceptions that may apply to someone incarcerated, who has social media and youtube run by a university professor about him (who might be considered an expert in the field)...it's all so confusing. Perhaps you're right that Gilding's case is not notable; although Ryan Holle's was, as well as Jennifer Mee's, who have had wiki pages about them for years, so I figured Gilding's case was at least as notable. Plus, his advocacy efforts and writing legislation seem notable. But it's so hard to tell, since there are very diverse views here on wiki, and one editor will give me advice I try to follow, only to find out the page may not even be notable. Ho hum...so discouraging. But thank you for your input, and I'll keep chugging along! Maybe a Florida felony murder page is a good idea...but in PLACE of pages like Ryan Holle, Jennifer Mee, and Doug Gilding, or in ADDITION to them...dunno. But I'll keep researching. Thank you again Mathglot for your time and comments! The wikipedia community is awesome! - Nikki ;-))) ~2026-34066-75 (talk) 15:17, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Comments left by AfC reviewers

• Comment: I've done some cleanup to the draft, it looks good! Before I accept it however, is there anything you can add to the "Early life and education" section? If there isn't anything, just let me know on my talk page. – LuniZunie_(talk) 18:10, 7 August 2026 (UTC)

• Comment: Draft is getting even better. :) The draft makes some claims without citations and contains some ambiguous claims that need clarification. These are marked. Please add sources or remove the underlying claims. Resolve and resubmit! :) CopyleftEverything (talk) 04:36, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

• Comment: 1. Article contains a decent amount of puffery. Gilding's case is astounding enough that it needs no puffery. "become a prominent advocate"; "From day one"; "despite the fact that he was never charged with actually committing the robbery, and the record shows he was home in a different county when the crime occurred". 2. Some reliance on WP:OVERATTRIBUTION, such as "Gilding's conviction and subsequent advocacy have been covered by the ABA Journal,[4] ABC Action News,[5] and his case was selected for investigation by Georgetown University's "Making an Exoneree" program[3][6]". This does not belong in intro paragraph. CopyleftEverything (talk) 01:29, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

• Comment: This is a good start, the citations from YouTube need to be changed to a more reliable source though. In solidarity Dafootballguy Want to talk? 03:01, 15 June 2026 (UTC)