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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Geraldo Perez in topic Origins.

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Should there be no words about Miller's connection to Sting?

Dominic Miller was born in Argentina, so he couldn't be "an english guitarist". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.51.109.79 (talk) 22:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Origins.

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According to this article he was born to a US father and Irish mother in Argentina where he spent the first ten years of his life. He then moved to Wisconsin, USA and then to London at the age of 13. He became notable while residing in England. Under MOS:OPENPARA it should reflect that. Not wherever he is born. Karst (talk) 10:26, 24 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

There seems to be some debate, because someone changed it again today. This is what the Wikipedia documentation says that you linked to: "In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable. Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability."
Vmavanti (talk) 00:16, 12 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
IMHO that is pretty clear. Over his career he has been based in Britain, that is where he became notable. His parents origin, his time in Argentina and the USA have been covered - but it is not where he became notable. So calling him an "Argentinian-born British-American" is not needed. Karst (talk) 10:51, 12 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
You may not believe this, but I emailed Dominic Miller yesteday and asked him. He answered. How cool is that? He responded: "I consider myself Argentine born British guitarist." Of course, you have only my word (I have the email headers as some proof) and the Wikipedia rules remains in place. Just thought you might be interested.
Vmavanti (talk) 15:07, 13 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
Sound perfectly plausible to me and thanks for getting that confirmed. British guitarist it is then - as we do not put the country where somebody is born in the WP:LEDE. Let's hope this settles it then. Karst (talk) 15:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
Dominic is not an "english" musician, he´s an "argentine-british". He was born in Argentina, he´s proud of it, and he has been recognized few days ago in Argentina.
https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-dominic-miller-el-guitarrista-de-sting-fue-homenajeado-en-su-ciudad-natal-estoy-orgulloso-de-ser-de-hurlingham/
So if he says he´s argentinian, and proud of it, who are you to define his nationality? Hgorlero (talk) 10:48, 1 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Honestly, this is ridiculous I don't understand why people tend to make nationality a very confusing thing. Nationality is where someone was physically born. "Nationality" comes from the latin "natio" (to be born) one's nationality is where someone is born. He was born in Argentina, he is Argentine not British. Now, getting different nationalities on paper by human's made up laws doesn't change the biological fact of place of birth. Yes, his career was more noticeable in the U.K but that doesn't make him British, not really, only in paper by human hand if you want, many years after his birth though. I don't think his real nationality should be replaced due to the place of his more important career path. That's neglecting his real identity. Daniela267 (talk) 23:13, 21 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
"Nationality is the legal status of belonging to a particular nation". Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:42, 21 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Then he is a born & bred Argentine with British citizenship. descends from Irish/USA lineage (anglo) 2001:8003:3FA2:CF00:3513:F38C:76D2:2EC0 (talk) 11:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I can confirm the above info on how Miller considers himself. Rick Beato recently did a interview with Miller (which is on YT) where Miller mentions this during the course of the interview when they were addressing how and where he grew up.THX1136 (talk) 16:19, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Opening graf

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Couple things: 1) Do we need to write that Sting is famous? 2) Who has released the solo albums? Rufus or Dominic? “He” in that last sentence is nebulous, so it needs to be cleared up whether Dominic or Rufus has released solo albums. Or you could just cut any reference to the kid because this is not his wiki page. ThaRid (talk) 18:03, 29 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Was going to edit this, but when I double checked the article it's been taken care of as far as I could see. Well done! THX1136 (talk) 16:22, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

I linked the word sideman, because it has a specific technical meaning, which I had not heard before. It might still be a little demeaning, given that Miller has been playing with Sting for over 30 years - so hardly just a session guy, occasionally slotted in for a few gigs. Mikhailfranco (talk) 08:01, 15 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Dominic is not an "english" musician, he´s an "argentine-british". He was born in Argentina, he´s proud of it, and he has been recognized few days ago in Argentina.

https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-dominic-miller-el-guitarrista-de-sting-fue-homenajeado-en-su-ciudad-natal-estoy-orgulloso-de-ser-de-hurlingham/ Hgorlero (talk) 10:22, 1 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Not Done. By the same token we can say he is American. Or French as he currently resides in southern France. I appreciate that he recently was honoured by the city but that doesn't have a bearing on the discussion and outcome above. Karst (talk) 16:50, 2 March 2025 (UTC)Reply