Talk:Die Linke

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The Left (Germany) → Die Linke – I find it very weird that we're using an ambiguous name that is more of a descriptive translation of the actual party name. Nobody knows this party as "The Left (Germany)" and most of the sources used in this article refer to it by its actual name. The ngrams also show no usage of the current article name 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom and WP:NATURAL. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 13:37, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support If there's no indication that the translation has common name status then using the natural name seems far more appropriate. Simonm223 (talk) 14:44, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per COMMONNAME.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:03, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per nom also clear english lang common name—blindlynx 00:02, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support – Per WP:NATURAL and WP:COMMONNAME. Yue🌙 01:58, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose See: Wikipedia:Article titles: "Naturalness – The title is one that readers are likely to look or search for...Such a title usually conveys what the subject is actually called in English." Reliable sources refer to the party in English as in this BBC article. Note that articles for other German parties are also presented in English even though, like the Left, they have similar names to other parties in multiple countries, for example, Christian Democratic Union of Germany, Social Democratic Party of Germany and German Communist Party. Furthermore, few readers know what the German word for left is and are most likely to type in The Left Germany. TFD (talk) 04:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Chicdat, consistency is less desirable than other elements. Common name is difficult to assess, Politico, Le Monde, and the FT use Die Linke, others use The Left, can't assess scholarly usage; it's not terribly clear. "The Left" isn't very precise as it's not clear it's on the party, it could potentially be about left wing politics in Germany in general. Kowal2701 (talk) 17:20, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support on balance. Certainly reduces ambiguity. Johnbod (talk) 22:22, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Strongly oppose last time I checked this was English Wikipedia not German Wikipedia Rares Kosa (talk) 16:12, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Wiki is the Hawaiian word for quick, we didn't translate that because it is a name and would be a weird thing to translate. The same thing should go here 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:17, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

WP:UE just says use whatever is most common in English language sources regardless of origin. Whatever is most commonly used in English is English. Problem here is that it’s difficult to assess common name Kowal2701 (talk) 16:21, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Support per WP:CONCISE and WP:PRECISE. The German name works as a natural disambiguation and is more precise. 84.251.164.143 (talk) 03:56, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

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Left wing citation removal

@AwerDiWeGo I didn't address your invocation of WP:ECREE because it's not relevant to the claim in question. And so I'd appreciate it, since your edit has been challenged, if you would self-revert per WP:BRD and WP:STATUSQUO until we've had a chance to discuss your edit here. Simonm223 (talk) 12:26, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Again, you forgot to address other things I said: ""Deleted citation that ... doesn't support what's said. The quote from the page cited is this: "The city government, at the time a centre-left coalition of SPD and DIE LINKE". The author is talking about a coalition, where the centrist qualifyer is provided by the SPD.""

I re-added the citation in the proper place with the correct author and chapter title (I did this before I read your comment here). AwerDiWeGo (talk) 12:39, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I think you're reading into the source that the SPD provided that. The quote you've provided does not support your assertion. Simonm223 (talk) 12:41, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

You have it backwards. The quote doesn't support the assertion that Die Linke is sometimes considered center-left as it was written in the infobox's footnote. It's OK as it is written in the article's body. AwerDiWeGo (talk) 12:46, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

This is how it is written in the article's body, which I haven't touched:

The Left is sometimes considered part of the German "centre-left" camp.[83][84]

AwerDiWeGo (talk) 12:48, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

How can you infer that any given party of the coalition contributed any given component of center-left from a line that simply describes it as a center-left coalition? I agree the body is correct. However I disagree that it contradicts what was in the infobox. Simonm223 (talk) 12:58, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Again, you have it backwards. It is you the one who is inferring. I didn't need to infer anything. AwerDiWeGo (talk) 13:01, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

OK, let's try this again because I think you're missing the point. "The city government, at the time a centre-left coalition of SPD and DIE LINKE" does not say, within it, that SPD is center and Die Linke is left except in as far as Die Linke literally translates to "The Left". This quote cannot be used to dispute that Die Linke participates in center-left politics because it doesn't specify what each component brought to the table of the coalition, simply that the coalition was center-left. A center-left coalition is most literally and straightforwardly read as a coalition of parties that coalesce around the center-left. Simonm223 (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Exactly. That's why I've never touched what we say in the article's body. AwerDiWeGo (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

For example, we can say and many sources say: "The Greens have been sometimes part of black–green coalitions in city councils and state parliaments." Does that allow us to say that The Greens are sometimes considered black-green? No, they are sometimes part of black-green coalitions. AwerDiWeGo (talk) 13:27, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

You know what? I don't think we actually disagree much except of whether the summary in the infobox has value and as I generally hate infoboxes as being too summarized I think I'll concede this one to you. Simonm223 (talk) 13:31, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

NPOV tag: Misrepresentation of citations

Google Scholar shows that academic reference works overwhelmingly use far-left or radical left to describe Die Linke's ideology. At the moment, there appears to be entirely original research denying this, which seems strange considering that there are open Marxist-Leninists who are MP's or factions in the party. There's an argument for left-wing to far-left as more factions have increasingly become influential within the organization. Excluding it entirely? Can't see why.

Type "Far-left Die Linke" & "Left-wing Die Linke" for reference.

Very confused about how this is even an argument. SickNWristed (talk) 13:15, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Because of the big tent nature of the party and its pragmatic camp (Bodo Ramelow), the obvious ideal to me is far-left to left-wing, but it would be SYNTH if we don't have a source that uses "far-left AND left-wing" rather than mashing up two sources that use differing descriptions. Far-left is therefore what we go by.

Anything else is original research. SickNWristed (talk) 13:37, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Search terms on google scholar alone mean absolutely nothing. Do you have any specific citations for papers that can be reviewed? Simonm223 (talk) 15:04, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Every German, British, American, French, and Austrian newspaper of record unanimously refers to the party as far-left.

Germany:

Party members self-identify as far-left. Every German newspaper of record also describes Die Linke as "ultralinks" (far-left) on an extended political scale.

This is all in German so would be unreadable for most editors.

France:

Le Monde, English: ("Far-left Die Linke")

Libération, English: ("Ultra-left Die Linke")

Radio France Internationale, English: ("Far-left Die Linke")

Le Figaro is unknown.

I do not know French and it appears to be exclusively published in it.

United States:

The New York Times ("Far-left Die Linke")

The Washington Post ("Far-left Die Linke")

The Wall Street Journal ("Far-left Die Linke")

LA Times ("Far-left Die Linke")

United Kingdom:

Financial Times ("Far-left Die Linke")

The Guardian ("Far-left Die Linke")

The Times (Never addressed)

The Telegraph (Never addressed, opinion articles use far-left)

Others:

Euronews, Journal of Democracy, France24, NPR, CNBC, Atlantic Council, John Hopkins University, Euractiv, Politico, and every other major newspaper or journal I found unanimously describes it as far-left.

German political scientist Adrian Pabst describes Die Linke as an "anti-liberal" and "far-left" party in Liberal World Order and Its Critics: Civilisational States and Cultural Commonwealths. Michael Bernhard, ‎Amie Kreppel, ‎and Carlos de la Torre state that "far-left" is preferred and label the party as such in 2024's Still the Age of Populism?: Re-examining Theories and Concepts.

Douglas Murray's The Strange Death of Europe uses "left-wing" rather than "far-left" but this seems to be a general description of the party's leanings. Murray also uses "right-wing" to describe Alternative for Germany (AfD) throughout. This is despite the clear völkisch nationalist tendencies of it by 2017. I doubt that this would be considered a reliable source that overturns everything else.

Google Scholar shows that far-left is used 50x more than left-wing.

(Most of those appear to be brief descriptors such as Murray's.) SickNWristed (talk) 00:41, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

OK again "Google scholar" is not a source but an index of sources and a bunch of newspapers from the United States and the UK are not academic sources at all. Do you have any actual academic sources here? Oh also there's no world in which noted crank Douglas Murray would be reliable for the colour of the sky, let alone the political position of left-of-center parties in Germany. Simonm223 (talk) 15:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

The academic sources listed are below.

Check my 22:25, 18 August 2025 (UTC) edit

There was a misunderstanding what I'm saying. Actually, Douglas Murray uses left-wing instead of far-left. His book is the one of the only ones I found who did that. (He also uses "right-wing AfD" instead of far-right.) I was expressing doubt that he would be considered a WP: RS.

A large majority of German, American, Canadian, British, and also describe it as far-left instead of left-wing. If a party with significant Marxist factions isn't at least left-wing to far-left: then what is? SickNWristed (talk) 15:15, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

As the "Ideology and platform" section states, "the Left includes many different factions, ranging from communists to social democrats", the party also has significant factions promoting social democracy so then we'd be at "centre-left to far-left". The fact that the party has different factions is the very reason why the current phrasing "A broad left-wing party, it has also been described as far-left by some news outlets." is fitting. Robby.is.on (talk) 15:38, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

That section appears to be entirely original research. Additionally, the infobox is intended to represent significant minority or majority viewpoints of the party, and the Netzwerk Reformlinke faction of the party was small and no longer exists.

We go by what reliable sources say, and they generally use far left. SickNWristed (talk) 15:45, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

You need better sources than an SPD affiliated think tank and its opinion in 2017. Whatever, you know, "populism" is only really such a smear word in Germany and Eastern Europe. Look at the Latin Countries: France, Spain, Latin American countries, etc. There, most sources (incl. Le Monde and Liberation today) call Die Linke either left or "gauche radicale" (which in France is separate from far-left. Die linke is not extrême gauche but ONLY gauche radicale but National Rally IS extreme droite, because Die Linke is part of the republican culture). 80.187.81.2 (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

"Far-left to left-wing"? The first term is always the one closest to the centre, not the term closest to the party majority. Yue🌙 18:42, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

There are plenty of reliable and academic sources that describe the party as left-wing. The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution also does not regard the party as extremist. I'd be willing to compromise to having the infobox state "Left-wing to far-left" but I strongly oppose having the infobox only state "Far-left" in the political position section. Helper201 (talk) 11:49, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

The large majority of reliable and academic sources describe the party as far-left.

1.) Unlike mainstream left-wing parties in Europe, Die Linke proudly takes foreign policy positions that are considered pro-Russian, pro-Chinese, and anti-NATO, and favors a reorganised European confederation with Russia as a leading member.

2.) A majority of the party self-identifies as Marxist.

3.) It is the ideological and historical successor of the Socialist Unity Party of Germany.

4.) Party members self-identify as far-left rather than left-wing.

5.) The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution's requirements for proscription are relatively stringent. The AfD is also not currently considered extremist (rather only the youth branch and certain regional groups).

We rightfully still label it far-right. SickNWristed (talk) 00:03, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Support - If one goes to Google Scholar and searches for "far-left Die Linke" since 2024, there will be more results than in case of "left-wing Die Linke". If we add up "radical left Die Linke" which has some findings and "leftist Die Linke" (which has merely 4 findings since 2024), then the far-left/radical left view is easily the majority one now. Given this, the omission of the 'far-left' label means that Wikipedia is at odds with the academic majority view. Brat Forelli🦊 20:39, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the support. It's definitely weird how "far-left" isn't mentioned at all despite multiple, large, active Marxist caucuses within the party. Even the more moderate members are significantly to the left of SPD.

The portrayal of the party as a mainstream left party is inaccurate.

Also appears that the article has WP: OWN problems. SickNWristed (talk) 15:39, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

The large majority of reliable and academic sources describe the party as far-left. That's a clear . When Simonm223 asked for papers above you gave one…

Every German newspaper of record also describes Die Linke as "ultralinks" (far-left) on an extended political scale. As someone living in Germany, I can't say I have ever seen the word "ultralinks" being used to describe the party.

2. A majority of the party self-identifies as Marxist. Another

3. It is the ideological and historical successor of the Socialist Unity Party of Germany. That's immaterial. In 30 years the party has gone through many changes, including the Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance split.

4. Party members self-identify as far-left rather than left-wing. That also is news to me. "far-left" translates to "linksextrem" and in political discourse, both "linksextrem" and "rechtsextrem" are descriptors which are usually disavowed by people who are labelled by them.

5. […] The AfD is also not currently considered extremist. That is misleading. The Bundesverfassungsschutz classified the AfD as extremist in a 1,100-page report. This classification is only "temporarily suspended pending an official court judgement". Robby.is.on (talk) 21:42, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

1.) The newspapers of record are listed above. Every newspaper of record in Germany, France, the United Kingdom, and the United States describes it as far-left. I'm listing dozens of academic studies below this post.

2.) There are certainly a small number of moderates within the party. That however doesn't mean that the party as a whole isn't far-left. If we had to list every faction of every political party every political infobox template would go: "Centrist to far-right".

3.) Of course. But it's not the case here.

4.) The center-left is occupied by the SPD. Die Linke's foreign policy is pro-China, pro-Russia, and opposed to the interests of liberal democracies, so it is by no means in the realm of the mainstream European left.

5.) And it's WP: CRYSTAL to speculate on it. Most countries have no organisation that is analogous to the Bundesverfassungsschutz so it cannot be a criteria on whether it is far-left or far-right. Its criteria, as forementioned, is strict in order to not interfere with the normative democratic process. Certain types of far-left and far-right politics are legal in Germany. Die Linke has also been monitored in the past.

I was one of the people who changed the AfD's article to list it as völkisch nationalist and far-right, btw. Both AfD and Die Linke is far-right and far-left. It's up to the courts whether AfD is within the guidelines of the German Constitution. SickNWristed (talk) 22:13, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

A comparison of British and German parliamentary discourses on science diplomacy over time (2022):

In contrast, MPs from the far-right AfD and the far-left Die Linke maintain a more positive view of Russia, both before and after February 2022.

Increasing toleration for the intolerant?“Adapted militancy” and German responses to Alternative für Deutschland (2023):

...Illustrating how the German political system is commonly perceived: governing parties (Christian-Democratic party, Social-Democratic party, Greens, Liberals, and the far-left Die Linke …

Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht (BSW): Left-Wing Authoritarian—and Populist? An Empirical Analysis (2024):

Exploring Wagenknecht’s and BSW’s populist appeal helps us to understand why the party is said to also have potential among seemingly different voter groups coming from the far right Alternative for Germany (AfD) and far left Die Linke, which share high levels of populist attitudes.

Populism and Prejudice: The Normalization of Anti-Immigration Attitudes in Germany (2024):

Next, I compare the German electorate’s support for immigration and populist parties after populist wins first for the far-right AfD and second for the far-left Die Linke.

Who are the''Putinversteher" in the European Parliament? Far-right and far-left parties in the European Parliament and their pro-Russia stances (2024):

For example, Germany’s far-left Die Linke is in favour of creating a collective security system in Europe together with Russia.

Growth models and voter preferences: the moderating impact of export-led growth on centre-left voters: (2024)

The same applies when additionally merging voters of the far left Die Linke to the centre-left category in Germany.

The nomination and electoral competitiveness of working class candidates in Germany (2022):

We find that the far-left Die Linke and far-right Alternative for Germany are much more likely to nominate working class candidates compared to all other parties in the German system

Inertia and Reactiveness in Germany's Russia Policy: From the 2021 Federal Election to the Invasion of Ukraine in 2022 (2022):

Notably, there was less support for this demand in the libertarian fdp, the far-left Die Linke, the far-right AfD, and among the undecided.

Zeitenwende, Europe and Germany's Culture of Restraint (2024):

At the other end of the spectrum from AfD, the far-left DieLinke party has languished at just below 5 per cent since early 2022. SickNWristed (talk) 22:25, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Use of blogs and opinion pieces (as shown in the 00:41, 18 August 2025 post above) violates WP:BLOGS and WP:RSOPINION. Helper201 (talk) 13:35, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Some of the many modern reliable sources calling the party left-wing:

• https://tribunemag.co.uk/2025/02/die-linke-german-elections-2025/
• https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/10/23/german-linke-rebel-walks-out-for-new-leftists-populist-party/
• https://www.euractiv.com/section/defence/news/merzs-partial-arms-export-ban-wont-dent-germany-israel-defence-links/
• https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67914273
• https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250224-how-germany-enduring-east-west-divide-pushing-voters-to-fringes-elections-afd-die-linke-migration
• https://theconversation.com/friedrich-merz-has-won-germanys-election-but-as-the-far-right-soars-forming-a-government-may-be-difficult-250621
• https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09644008.2025.2497083?scroll=top&needAccess=true
• https://www.politico.eu/article/eurosceptics-win-state-seats-in-germany/
• https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Executive_Secrecy_and_Democratic_Politic/ABTBEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22left-wing+Die+Linke%22&pg=PA69&printsec=frontcover
• https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/10/germanys-green-party-rejects-merzs-spending-proposals
• https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jun/11/russia-ukraine-war-live-volodymyr-zelenskiy-recovery-conference-latest-updates
• https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/23/germany-election-live-olaf-scholz/
• https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/23/german-election-results/
• https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/A_Brief_Global_History_of_the_Left/NGTiEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22left-wing%22+%22Die+Linke%22&pg=PT206&printsec=frontcover

As I mentioned above the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution does not regard the party as extremist (as cited in the Wikipedia article). Also, just using search results saying "more say position X than Y" violates WP:HITS. Thirdly, no, not "Every German, British, American, French, and Austrian newspaper of record unanimously refers to the party as far-left", that is 100% wrong. It is very easy to find articles by newspapers of record that label the party as left-wing, four of which I've done above (via The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Irish Times and The Washington Post). Helper201 (talk) 14:00, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

There is no requirement for the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution to label the party as extremist for German parties to be listed as far-left or far-right Many forms of radical and reactionary politics are legal in Germany and the process is intentionally strigent in order to not interfere with the liberal democratic process.

It is not uncommon for journalists or scholars to use "right" or "left" in a broad sense that encompasses the entire range of the political spectrum. The Washington Post uses far-left in a majority of it descriptions for Die Linke. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5,) The Daily Telegram, The Irish Times, and The Guardian do the same. Using "left-wing" in passing to describe the party is clearly an instance of this. It is absolutely not a denial of its far-left status. You can find similar descriptions for the far-right AfD.

AfD (in reference to its page) and Die Linke are absolutely not part of the mainstream parties in Germany. CDU, CSU, Greens, SPD, and FDP are. Clearly, the large majority of political scientists and journalists use far-left to describe the party, and informally labeled by them as part of the pro-Russian Putinversteher. SickNWristed (talk) 14:56, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

informally labeled by them as part of the pro-Russian Putinversteher. Nope, those people – Sahra Wagenknecht, Klaus Ernst, Sevim Dağdelen etc. – have mostly ended up at the BSW. Robby.is.on (talk) 23:03, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Significant portions of the party still are. Die Linke voters have a majority approval rating of China and Russia. It's indisputably not a mainstream left party. SickNWristed (talk) 00:15, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Significant portions of the party still are. Die Linke voters have a majority approval rating of China and Russia. More unsubstantiated claims – Firehose of falsehood comes to mind. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:43, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

There's many references that clarify that this still applies after BSW formed:

"The party has promoted drug legalisation, rent controls, and redistributive wealth policies, and is also notably pro-Russian and hostile to Ukraine’s democracy." SickNWristed (talk) 14:08, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

pro-Russian and hostile to Ukraine’s democracy That is just patently false. Feel free to run the statements below from https://www.die-linke.de/themen/frieden/ukraine-krieg/ through a translation service.

About taking sides:

Wir verurteilen diesen völkerrechtswidrigen Krieg und stehen an der Seite der Menschen in der Ukraine, die ein Recht auf Selbstverteidigung hat. Russland muss die Truppen aus der Ukraine zurückziehen.

On sanctions against Russia:

Die Linke findet Sanktionen sinnvoll, die die Machtbasis von Putin schwächen: die russische Rüstungsindustrie, den militärisch-industriellen Komplex in Russland, die Auslandsvermögen der Millionäre und Milliardäre.

The party admits previous misjudgement of Russia:

Wart ihr bisher auf der Seite Russlands? (Seid ihr immer noch „Putinversteher*innen“?)
Die Linke kritisiert Putins Politik. Sei es der massive Demokratieabbau in Russland oder die Rolle Russlands in internationalen Konflikten wie in Syrien oder der Ukraine. Vormals haben wir das Ausmaß an Aggressivität und die Bereitschaft der russischen Regierung unterschätzt, einen Angriffskrieg zu beginnen und ein Nachbarland zu überfallen. Mit diesen Fehleinschätzungen setzen wir uns selbstkritisch auseinander.

Robby.is.on (talk) 14:44, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

1.) Self-references are not reliable sources.

2.) No one denies that the pro-Putin faction of the party has declined and many have left to the BSW. However, a significant minority of the party still adheres to this, and all my edit did was mention it.

3.) Die Linke still opposes weapon shipments and supports the involvement of China in the conflict. Both are (rightfully in my mind) seen by analysts as serving as a in practice pro-Russian foreign policy.

4.) What hasn't changed is that the party is also seen by analysts as pro-China. Several members of the party has suggested that Taiwan rightfully belongs to China (beyond pragmatic recognition in the UN while supporting them in other ways). This has been commented upon in multiple major sources.

AfD and Die Linke are not mainstream parties. SickNWristed (talk) 22:42, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Both co-chairs, Ines Schwerdtner and Jan van Aken, also currently identify with varieties of Marxism or consider themselves "substantially influenced" by it. Schwertner wrote an entire book about it. You can see van Aken's statement on Ukraine here.

van Aken was certainly not kicked out of the party. He's the co-chair. If parties with substantial Marxist factions are no longer far-left, then we couldn't use the term on practicially any article. SickNWristed (talk) 23:04, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

This entire discussion uses too many politically oriented social scientists and new papers. The former are usable with retenue, the latter should absolutely be excluded from any debate like this. Excluded completely. 80.187.81.2 (talk) 13:55, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Page is biased

We should change the political position for example. It says left-wing, but die linke clearly has roots in marixsm-leninism and opinions that defy mainstream: Exiting of NATO, hatred of capitalism, mass-nationalization of industries such as housing, energy and healthcare. We should change it to «Left-wing to Far-left» so it’s open to interpretation for the user. Saelwack (talk) 17:04, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Okay, we really do not need FIVE active discussions about the exact same thing. There is already a recently active thread above dealing with the same topic; leave your thoughts there. Yue🌙 07:45, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Extremism is defined as being against republican democracy or disrespecting its principles. The far-left, contrary to the far-right, also refuses to participate in the electoral game, giving it less importance (and Die Linke is not far-left). While potentially questionable, none of the things you mentioned are fundamentally signs of extremism. The Labour Party or the French Socialist Party supported these very same positions for much of the 20th century. ~2025-34045-77 (talk) 14:08, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

"Die linke" should be called left wing to far left or at least parts of the left are far left

Die linke and Far left Polnische Pole (talk) 20:52, 13 March 2026 (UTC)