Talk:Derringer

I removed the following:

"Obviously, a higher caliber derringer will have a disadvantage in width, compared to a .32 or even a .380 ACP automatic like the Kel-Tec. It is possible that customers prefer the concealment properties of a slimmer pocket automatic."

This is demonstrably false. A derringer requires just the width of the barrel, while an automatic must be as wide as the barrel plus slide thickness. If you put thinner grip panels on the American Derringer Model 1 in .45 Colt, you can get it down to .9" thick (the frame thickness), which is as thick as the Kel-Tec PF-9 (.88"). They don't list the frame thickness on the DA-38, but it's probably less than the Model 1 since the width with grips is .1" less (and .40 S&W is the largest caliber it's chambered in). The .45 Colt is going to produce far better ballistics in the short barrel than the 9mm, and the .40 S&W will probably beat out the 9mm even with the shorter barrel. scot 01:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation

IMO a disambiguation page is needed to distinguish this derringer from "Derringer" as a name. Xinophiliac (talk) 04:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Derringer

Shouldn't this be merged with the deringer article...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.248.89 (talk) 20:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Abraham Lincoln was shot with this weapon April 14, 1865

Muff pistols

Good stuff--Zubedar (talk) 19:54, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Deringer versus Derringer

Both spellings occur in the article. Which one is correct?

24.255.155.226 (talk) 13:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

If I understand the info in the article correctly, Deringer when referring to the inventor or guns made by/licensed by him. Derringer for all other handguns of similar design.

Phantom in ca (talk) 00:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Add info re. High Standard DAO derringers

For either myself in the future or someone else: there should be info about the High Standard derringers made in the '60s, '70s, and early '80s. They represent an advancement in that they were double-action only (DAO) and had internal strikers versus an external, exposed hammer that is more dangerous if dropped, and requires cocking for each shot.

Some resources: http://www.histandard.info/models/derringers.html

http://jamesazacharyjr.blogspot.com/2009/09/high-standard-derringer.html

They were offered in .22 LR and .22 magnum, in blue, nickel, and electroless nickel.

American Derrigner is offering copies of the original and larger framed version for larger calibers.

Phantom in ca (talk) 00:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Pop culture

I've removed several entries from the pop culture section that I felt didn't meet WP:GUNS standards. It isn't Wikipedia's job to mention every single piece of media a firearm appears in unless discussed in reliable secondary sources. Grimwol (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Christian Sharps 4-barrel Pepperbox Derringer

This article would benefit from adding an entry (ideally with a photo) about the Christian Sharps 4-barreled pepperbox derringer. Phantom in ca (talk) 17:44, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

The Sharps is a multibarrel derringer but the barrels are fixed position and the firing mechanism rotates as cocked. A pepperbox has rotating barrels, fixed position firing mechanism. The Sharps looks like a pepperbox but functions like a double-barreled Remington Derringer, but with 4 barrels inside of 2. -- Naaman Brown (talk) 14:40, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Overcoat pistol listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Overcoat pistol. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:15, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Deringer, Derringer

Old models (Deringer Piladelphia, Remington-, Colt-, and other old Deringers are Deringers, not Derringers (The Book of old Colt Firearms 1971 by Sutherland & Wilson), (Flaydermans Guide). Modern guns = Derringer -- hmaag (talk) 16:23, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Derringer is a misspelling please change it to Deringer, Deringers made by Henry Deringer are not Derringers (Photo of my DERINGER / PHILADELA), Thanks, -- hmaag (talk) 08:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Close-up of Philadelphia Deringer's markings

What is it?

The article doesn't say what a Derringer is, in fact the entire first paragraph is dedicated to what it is not, and then only vague phrasings are used. I can't find any definition. Mikachu42 (talk) 01:41, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Pocket Pistol?

The first paragraph says a Derringer is not a pocket pistol. The first photo caption says it is. Which is it? MrRK (talk) 04:51, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

It's widely described, including in our own pocket pistol article, as a pocket pistol. The claim that it wasn't was not sourced nor discussed anywhere else in the article, thus failing MOS:LEDE, as such I've removed it. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 05:32, 17 January 2026 (UTC)