Talk:Demogroup

Move to "demoscener" or "demosceners"?

I dunno. I prefer being called a demoscener than a demomaker - which is analogous to .werkkzeug and the likes... // Gargaj 11:27, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I Agree, I've had the urge to change it before. In all the years in the demoscene, I've never used the word "demomaker" to describe a fellow scener. Nmrd 14:09, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, in my book "demomaker" stands for "demotool". // Gargaj 18:48, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

I took the liberty and moved the article to DEMOGROUP - where it belongs. Some cleanup might be required. // Gargaj 01:30, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Swapper

the "Swapper/Spreader" is missing, who took care about to spread the own demos and collect other groups demos in Pre-Internet times not a trivial task. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.158.206.160 (talk) 13:05:54, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

• Feel free to add it - I ignored it because I have little knowledge about it. // Gargaj 16:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Europe vs. North America

Have reliable sources ever explained why demogroups formed in Europe but not North America? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 16:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• I dont think it can be explained, to be honest. It's just "one of those things". // Gargaj (talk) 15:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Maybe there's an academic study somewhere. Could population density be anything to do with it? --Trevj (talk) 13:28, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Taking the original question literally, there have been and still are demogroups in North America, see demoscene.us. As for the age-old question to why the demoscene wasn't/isn't as big in NA -- yes, population density and long distances. Also, I'd say, economic factors (easier to get a job using demo skills, e.g. game industry, at a younger age -- although more game studios are popping up in Europe now), access to more media, e.g. movies and TV, for consumption, and culture in general (you could also ask "why isn't soccer so popular in the US", for example). --Vossanova ^o< 15:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

To that, I'd add, a greater desire to make money and become famous from one's productions (see: Hollywood), neither of which the demoscene really offers. Not saying I agree with that, it's just how it is. --Vossanova ^o< 15:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Sources

This article Demogroup has had a {{Unreferenced}} tag since 2007, so here are some possible sources found using Google Scholar.

• Computer DEMOs -- The Story So Far by Petri Kuittinen published in Intelligent Agent 4.1 Winter 2004 - a seven page illustrated essay on the historical background to the demo scene.
• THE HACKER DEMO SCENE AND IT'S CULTURAL ARTEFACTS - a 23 page paper from 1995 by George Borzyskowski

There is also this 2007 paper on procedural Audio by Andy Farnell, but it only contains two sentences on page 12 referring to demoscene pioneers Farbrausch and The Black Lotus (the latter now deleted from the English wikipedia but readable in the German wikipedia here and listed in this German encyclopedia on the demoscene ). -84user (talk) 21:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Rename to Demoscene Group?

This title is novel and strange to me, and reads like "Musicband" or "Gamecompany". Was it used when creating the article to represent the concept, or can I see it mentioned in various diskmags or the like? Henrik Erlandsson 18:26, 21 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HenrikErlandsson (talk • contribs)