Talk:Delta Force

Rumor has it: 24 STS; the Unit.

Just want to understand and have these items clarified.

1) Never heard that the 24th STS was tier 1. There needs to be a better citation for this. The article referenced uses the word "Secretive" when it could have used the term "unheard of."

2) Also, I understood that The Unit referred to the Secret Army of the North, once called Centra Spike. I have always understood that Delta and the Secret Army of the North are different.

Thank you.

HillbillyWoman (talk) 20:13, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Your information is indeed mistaken.

1. 24th STS has always been a special missions unit, i.e. "Tier 1" -- it is the only (ground) portion of AFSOC that is such. .

2. The "Secret Army of the North" I have no idea what that is. You are probably referring to the "Army of Northern Virginia", which was once codenamed CENTRA SPIKE, and is currently known as the Intelligence Support Activity. It is also part of JSOC, but is a distinctly different SMU and not the same thing as Delta (though its origins are somewhat intertwined with Delta).⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 22:36, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

OK. Under the nicknames for CAG this article has "the unit." Just yesterday, I overheard that the Ranger Regiment was just re-classified as tier one…//

20 years ago both the 23 and 24 STS were garrison/housed @ JSOC; but it seems like most of the famous Afghanistan missions were when STS individuals were inserted with others teams, like Chapman. ::: HillbillyWoman (talk) 16:49, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

"The Unit" is a common nickname for Delta, correct. Ranger Regiment is not "reclassified as tier one." The Regimental Reconnaissance Company is an SMU like CAG, DEVGRU, etc; the 75th Ranger Regiment as a whole is not. To my knowledge, 23rd STS was not and has never been organized under JSOC. Wherever you're getting your information from seems to be outdated or inaccurate. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 00:15, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Training supported by invalid source

there is a section in training that is supported by an invalid source. that reference only confirms the use of live ammunition. it makes no reference to replacing "hostages" with other students and then using live ammunition on them, which is what the sentence seems to be inferring.

"The students then go back to the shoot house and the "hostages" are replaced with other students and Delta Force members. Live ammunition is known to have been used in these exercises, to test the students, and build trust between one another.[38]" Jimith1 (talk) 08:10, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

The Unit is not named 3rd Operational Support Group

3rd Operational Support Group is where they put people that they "dont like" per say. For example when you come to a squadron you're a strap which is kind of your probationary period if they like you you'll be kept but if you don't really mix well with the team they move you to Combat Support Squadron or 3rd Operational Support Group. Operational Support Group is more or less state side actors from what I've seen. In the video that surfaced on youtube of A Squadron doing Hostage Rescue CQB training those people in the house most likely were OSG ~2026-13725-85 (talk) 15:43, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

The article does not say that it is named 3rd OSG; and 3rd OSG is not even a little bit what you're describing. Just because you've watched some random vetbro make stuff up on a podcast does not mean that it's accurate.⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:18, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

I should've worded it different I wasn't saying that's what the article said. I was referencing the section of the article where they talk about the possible renaming. While OSG might not be what I'm referencing but I know it's not the unit itself sorry for coming off as hostile if I did ~2026-13648-73 (talk) 03:19, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

I also was thinking of something completely different 3rd OSG is admin from what I've heard. ~2026-13648-73 (talk) 03:23, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

CO

Commanding Officers, Delta Force 1977-1980 - Col. Charles Beckwith 1980-1982 - Col. Rod Paschall 1982-1985 - Col. Sherman Williford 1985-1989 - Col. William Garrison 1989-1992 - Col. Peter Schoomaker 1992-1994 - Col. William Boykin 1994-1996 - Col. Bernard McCabe Jr. 1996-1998 - Col. Eldon Bargewell 1998-2000 - Col. Gary Harrell 2000-2002 - Col. James Schwitters 2000-2003 - Col Ron Russell April 2003-May 2003 - Lt. Col Peter Blaber 2003-2005 - Col. Bennet Sacolick 2005-2007 - Col. Austin Miller 2007-2009 - Col. Mark Erwin 2009-2011 - Col. Mark O'Neil 2013-2015 - Col. Chris Donahue 2015-2017 - Col Joshua Rudd 2018-2020 - Col. James Wiese 2021-2023 - Col. Matt Rose 2023-2025 - classified

source - https://www.reddit.com/r/JSOCarchive/comments/1dgpi90/delta_force_commanders_from_1977_to_2021/ ~2026-40387-54 (talk) 00:21, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

Reddit is already not a reliable source that we can use, but that sub in particular is full of so much nonsense and disinformation that I'd actively disbelieve it. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 00:43, 19 July 2026 (UTC)