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[edit]The political left-right spectrum is defined where left is government control over the means of production and right is private control over the means of production. How do we square the notion of "far right" somehow meaning "totalitarianism"? Under a totalitarian government, they would dictate and thus control all of the means of production. That would make any form of totalitarian government left not right. It cannot be true that on the left-right spectrum that fascism is far-right given the totalitarian component. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.112.170 (talk) 20:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- No, that is not how the political left-right spectrum is defined. Notice that your definition conflicts with the customary placing of many ideologies on the spectrum, not just fascism. For example, anarchism is considered far-left. Obviously, "left" cannot mean "government control" if anarchism is far-left. Just like "right" cannot mean "private control", because several big-government ideologies are on the right (not just fascism, but also, for example, absolute monarchism).
- The actual definition of left and right is that "left" means being pro-equality (far-left means absolute equality) and "right" means being pro-hierarchy (far-right means supremacy of some people over others). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1009:B001:A6A9:E8D0:A86F:F39D:88D6 (talk) 21:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are both totalitarian left governments, like Soviet Russia, and totalitarian right governments, like Nazi Germany. The left-right divide was originally between democratic reform and absolute monarchy, but these days it's normally a question of economics. Communism is far left, socialism is left, social democracy is centre-left, regulated capitalism is centre-right, neoliberalism/laissez faire capitalism is right, with systems like (techno)feudalism and corporatism being far-right. There is also a cultural axis between liberal cosmopolitanism and conservative nationalism, but that varies a lot between countries. Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany were both corporatist and nationalist, so they were both economically and culturally right-wing. 2601:486:100:9780:F1D8:66FC:84EB:77A6 (talk) 04:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- the beginning of the thread is correct, left is more Government control, less private ownership, right is Private ownership, less Government, more freedoms.
- You can argue like gun control ok left wants to take away guns believing it would make everyone safer, the right believes in the right to defend yourself.
- And no matter those intent on doing evil will still have guns ~2025-32822-87 (talk) 18:42, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Neither you nor the top commenter are correct. Left-wing politics and Right-wing politics are both well-understood and studied ideologies, and you all have an encyclopedia at hand which you can check before spouting nonsense like this. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 19:08, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Block evasion by Desaccountability. Yue🌙 (talk) 07:35, 26 July 2026 (UTC)
Definitions of fascism → Types of fascism – The article touched on that , this, and that Occult day (talk) 14:13, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
- — Occult day (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — BarrelProof (talk) 15:35, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
- @Occult day: Do you mean Types? Can you please provide more explanation? — BarrelProof (talk) 15:35, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
- The scope of the encyclopedia requires in-depth coverage, not superficial statements. Occult day (talk) 16:49, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
- Error of auto-corrector of smartphone. Occult day (talk) 16:54, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
- Two weights for delete injust and not notorious topic and dissemination of fringe theories can’t happened here. The scope of actually article is unclear and confuse and we must avoid double meanings in wikipedia. The site is an encyclopedia and not the place of resume or dictionary. (Gold’s hint: fascism is not just an epithet, it is an ideology). Occult day (talk) 17:05, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
- Error of auto-corrector of smartphone. Occult day (talk) 16:54, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
- The scope of the encyclopedia requires in-depth coverage, not superficial statements. Occult day (talk) 16:49, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose The article is about the definition of fascism. There might be a point here that it violates WP:DICDEF, but this is the WP:WRONGFORUM for that, and moving it to a new and inaccurate name won't help at all. AfD is instead where you would go to argue this article is unencyclopedic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:06, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
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