Edge Rewrite
// HTMLRewriter · presentation

This page was redesigned at the edge.

Cloudflare fetched the original article and streamed it through HTMLRewriter to apply an entirely new visual system without rebuilding the source page.

// request.cf · coarse context

A page that knows where it met you.

Only coarse request metadata is shown. This demo does not display or persist visitor IP addresses.

Country
US
Cloudflare location
CMH
Connection
HTTP/2
Language
Not provided

Ray ID: a25db6d25ab47f3b

Jump to content

Talk:David Boren

Page contents not supported in other languages.
Add topic
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Latest comment: 11 years ago by Mason.Jones in topic SAE incident

SAE incident

[edit]

@Mason.Jones: - given Boren's career (Senator, Governor, 20-year career as president of a major university, among other things) I fail to see how extensive coverage of the SAE incident can possibly be justified per WP:UNDUE. Guettarda (talk) 17:26, 14 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

To elaborate a little - this is already covered in three other articles, including one dedicated to the topic. The incident is notable, but it's not a notable aspect of Boren's career. Guettarda (talk) 18:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Trying something else, since no one else has commented here. Guettarda (talk) 19:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

There is no "compromise" in your solution -- you have censored an entire paragraph pertaining to an important incident on the campus that President Boren has adjudicated himself. He has been interviewed about this on all major networks. WP's "UNDUE" protocol concerns the weight of viewpoints in an article, not whether to censor the entire subject outright, which you have done.Mason.Jones (talk) 00:10, 15 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

@Mason.Jones: - So you're saying that after a career spanning almost 50 years in which he served as Senator, Governor, and other important roles, this incident should occupy 6% of the word-count of the article? That's what you consider WP:DUE weight? And surely you've heard of WP:RECENTISM?
And don't make absurd accusations of censorship - I voted to keep the article, I argued in favour of keeping the incident in the main OU article - and I added a link to the "See also"" - a link, I note, you have chosen to delete from this article. Rather curious behaviour, I must say. Guettarda (talk) 07:35, 15 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Whether the incident should occupy 6% of the article is not the issue. It can occupy 2% or 4%, at the end of a previous section (with no subheading), but nonetheless it should be retained in some form. A very emphatic administrative decision was made by President Boren, pertaining to a significant media event this year. This is not about the Kardashians; it is about a large U.S. university campus. To remove a well-sourced paragraph from an article and relegate it to "See also" is excessive "editing" on your part.Mason.Jones (talk) 15:11, 15 March 2015 (UTC)Reply