Talk:Cuffy

Can we please change the title of the page back to Cuffy?

No one in Guyana calls Cuffy Coffij, and the name Cuffy is on the coins and in the history books. LongLiveGrenada (talk) 02:20, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Correctness of titling the article "Cuffy (slave)?"

There is a general movement on the part of historians and history communicators to move away from labelling enslaved persons as "slaves" as their identity. The article currently redirects from "Cuffy (person)." Would it be possible to change the title of the article to "Cuffy (person)" or just "Cuffy" to better align with this tendency and better communicate who this person was? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quaoarian (talk • contribs) 08:43, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Requested move 7 September 2025

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Multiple proposals, including not moving, moving to Cuffy (rebel leader)/Cuffy (revolutionary), and moving to Cuffy as primary topic. No clear concrete consensus out of any of these. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 17:23, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

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Cuffy (slave) → Cuffy (person)Cuffy (person) – Adding in this section, per the controversial moves protocol. Current history communication steers away from labelling people as "slaves," but rather "enslaved persons," to better reflect their humanity and identity beyond the enslaved state. There is also no other article about a person named "Cuffy," thus no ambiguity would be created by naming this article "Cuffy (person)." Quaoarian (talk) 08:53, 7 September 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 17:10, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

• I support the removal of "slave", but I think something more descriptive than "person" would be better. I'd suggest Cuffy (rebel leader) or Cuffy (revolutionary). Tevildo (talk) 10:00, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

  No issue with "revolutionary" or "rebel leader." Quaoarian (talk) 11:21, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

  support either of these—blindlynx 18:28, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. "Slave" is not a dirty word. Zacwill (talk) 14:52, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support as primary – definitely the primary topic by long-term significance and pageviews. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 19:52, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
  • @Chicdat: Just to clarify, your proposal is to move Cuffy (slave) to Cuffy, and Cuffy to Cuffy (disambiguation)? Tevildo (talk) 07:12, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
    • Yes. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 10:41, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

  Support This seems like the clearest solution. Quaoarian (talk) 13:52, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, this is not a good disambiguation tag. No objection to Cuffy (rebel leader). 162 etc. (talk) 19:53, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Is "Cuffy" the actual most common spelling? It appears that "Coffy" and "Coffij" are also used in sources. 162 etc. (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
• I see nothing wrong with the current title (Wikipedia does not need to sugarcoat slavery), but his notability does not derive from his simply being a slave. While "person" is sufficient to disambiguate him from the other entries at Cuffy, it reads a little weird. "Cuffy (rebel leader)" or similar is a good medium. I also support a move to Cuffy and the disambiguation page to Cuffy (disambiguation) per long-term significance. —  AjaxSmack  02:09, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose move per Zacwill. This feels like an attempt to right great wrongs. O.N.R. ^(talk) 09:23, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

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Requested move 23 September 2025

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The result of the move request was: moved. Given the unanimous support of moving to the primary topic, I feel comfortable moving this as a WP:SNOW move. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 04:31, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

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Cuffy (slave) → Cuffy – Per previous discussion and discussion with the user who closed the previous discussion, while there was a lack of consensus on where to move the page, there was a general consensus that the page ought to be moved. Due to the long-term significance of the article, this proposal is to move this article to "Cuffy" and the related disambiguation page to "Cuffy (disambiguation)" Quaoarian (talk) 17:28, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Support clear PT—blindlynx 19:41, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support due to longterm significance, although this should be a multi-page move with the DAB page also being moved out of the way. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:48, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Support: the only other article by the exact name of "Cuffy" is an obscure 80s sitcom. The other articles are naturally disambiguated. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 15:42, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Cuffy, Cher, also seems worth considering. The "Cher" is only included for disambiguation purposes, and the opening sentence is "Cuffy (French pronunciation: [kyfi]) is a commune ..." I assume it has long-term significance, but it's a pretty small place with a population of only about 1,000 people. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:19, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

This article seems to get about 80% of traffic to any of them...though numbers are so low i doubt we ca draw conclusions just from that . I'm also still happy with 'revolutionary' or 'rebel leader' as dabs simply because that's what he's known for —blindlynx 17:35, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - Station1 (talk) 19:06, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

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