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Latest comment: 8 months ago3 comments3 people in discussion
Sorry about the lack of references. I was very new to Wikipedia when I created this article, but I do hope to return and at least make a good list of sources at some point. I have also been meaning to add a discography list to the page. There are only two recordings I know of that have a bass cromorne in them, and I own both. The instrument used in those recordings was built quite recently, patterned after illustrations and the surviving "contrabass oboes" from the time that were probably cromornes, possibly with modifications...
That is likely because in modern French they do indeed appear to mean the same thing. However, the research of Bruce Haynes, Marc Ecochard (see http://www.grandhautbois-flutes.com/), and others indicate that this was not always true, and wasn't true in the 17th century at least. I'll admit it is confusing and especially with regards to the organ stop--what instrument exactly was/is/are they meant to imitate? However, in Haynes' book The Eloquent Oboe he reproduces a technical drawing from a French encyclopedia, I believe, showing an instrument that looks like a bass/contrabass oboe but labeled "cromorne." It was published long after the extinction of the crumhorn. I'll probably be revisiting music of that period again and maybe will be able to post that image, as it has got to be in the public domain... the_paccagnellan (talk) 10:57, 28 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
Evidently the French Wikipedia article has been completely rewritten since 2009, since it does not in any way suggest cromorne and crumhorn are synonymous; to the contrary it says the two should not be confused. That article provides a great deal more information than what is here, and includes the drawing referred to above. I've looked at a Google translation but someone who actually reads French should use it as a starting point to replace the present English article which still is, all but the first sentence, redundantly about the crumhorn. — Doctroid (talk) 22:54, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Article is supposedly about the cromorne, but the main body of it, the first paragraph, is about the crumhorn (which already has it's own article) the second paragraph is about the hecklephone, and what influenced it (it is made unclear what "these instruments" is supposed to mean in that context) only the _first_ sentence of the lead-in text describes the actual topic of article, rest of it is again about the "crumhorn". --CatCat (talk) 11:54, 10 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
