Talk:Criticism of crusading

Wiki Education assignment: Hist401Spring2025-Hamilton

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Holy Land vs. Constantinople

In the paragraph about Adam of Perseigne, it says he went to the Holy Land which could mean a number of places. I can't find whether or not Adam went with the crusaders or was one of the ones that defected, but initially I wanted to change it to Constantinople to be more precise. Wikihist8231 (talk) 00:40, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

@Wikihist8231: The cited source (Andrea) states that Adam "participated in an ill-fated campaign in the Holy Land in 1202–1203". For more on those Fourth Crusaders who made it to the Holy Land, see Queller, D. E.; Compton, T. K.; Campbell, D. A. (1974). "The Fourth Crusade: The Neglected Majority". Speculum. 49 (3): 441–465. doi:10.2307/2851751. JSTOR 2851751. S2CID 163442765.. Srnec (talk) 03:09, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Date around Annals of Wurzburg

There needs to be some time frame associated with the Annals of Wurzburg if the next paragraph is going to start with "around the same time." In the List of Sources for the Crusades Wikipedia article it says it covered the 2nd Crusade from 1125-1158 which would give an idea of around the time. I also have multiple sources that it was written in or around 1147, if there was a quick ", a Latin chronicle on the history of the Second Crusade, written in 1147," after Annals of Wurzburg it would make the next paragraph make a lot more sense and tell the readers around what time Isaac criticized the Knights Templar. Wikihist8231 (talk) 21:12, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

It means 'around the time of the Second Crusade', which is the subject of the preceding quotation and which this article already dates to 1147–1149. Is that not enough? Srnec (talk) 23:21, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

If the next paragraph said 'around the same time of the Second Crusade' it would read better. The annals could have been written after the Second Crusade looking back on it, adding 'of the Second Crusade' would make it easier for the reader. I have read over it multiple times and did not make that connection until now. Wikihist8231 (talk) 00:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)