Edge Rewrite
// HTMLRewriter · presentation

This page was redesigned at the edge.

Cloudflare fetched the original article and streamed it through HTMLRewriter to apply an entirely new visual system without rebuilding the source page.

// request.cf · coarse context

A page that knows where it met you.

Only coarse request metadata is shown. This demo does not display or persist visitor IP addresses.

Country
US
Cloudflare location
CMH
Connection
HTTP/2
Language
Not provided

Ray ID: a459d556d990f557

Jump to content

Talk:Counties of Iceland

Page contents not supported in other languages.
Add topic
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Latest comment: 5 years ago by Bjarki S in topic This article has a wrong premise

This article has a wrong premise

[edit]

As stated clearly in the respective articles in English and German about counties in English-speaking world, a 'county' is an administrative division lead by a nobleman entitled a count, hence the name.

Thus the German translation correctly reads 'Grafschaft'. There is the corresponding term 'Grevskap/Grevskab' in Norwegian/Danish, which is however by no means a county.

This article has a flawed premise. "Amt" is to be translated as "province", since shire is already another Norwegian-Danish term ("herred") and hence cannot be used. So far for the Danish-Norwegian period.

The article about "Sysselmann" clearly states that "The English version of this word is sheriff". The article "Sýsla" clearly states that a "Sýsla" is a "police district". This has to be coherent - but under no circumstances can it be "county", since neither amts nor sýslur are or were governed by counts or anything close to counts, but by magistrates.

In France, Italy, Spain, Austria-Hungary, etc., similar divisions existed, all based upon the direct translations of the nobleman who ruled the territory, the count (from Latin Comitatus, variations in Romance languages such as Comté, Contado, or the Hungarian Komitat (Gespanschaft).

THE SAME IS THE CASE IN NORWAY AND DENMARK: These articles need to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.156.126.230 (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

You make a fair point. I think the more coherent English translation of sýsla and sýslumaður would be shire and sheriff but since there is ample evidence for county being the accepted and official translation I don't think it would pass Wikipedia guidelines for original research to change this here. --Bjarki (talk) 12:57, 29 June 2021 (UTC)Reply