Talk:Condottiere
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| On 21 May 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Condottiero to Condottiere. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 21 May 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 03:01, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
Condottiero → Condottiere – The singular form condottiere is more appropriate as the English Wikipedia article title than condottiero because English-language scholarship, dictionaries, and encylopedias overwhelmingly use condottiere (see: Britannica, Oxford Reference, Collins English Dictionary, Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology, etc.) The word entered English as condottiere in the 1790s. The standard English-language monograph on the subject, Michael Mallett's Mercenaries and their Masters: Warfare in Renaissance Italy (1974), consistently uses condottiere as the singular, as do most other scholars.
In Italian language sources, condottiero is more dominant. The authoritative modern Italian dictionary Treccani marks condottiere as the archaic (ant.) form, since it was used in early literary sources interchangeably with -iero depending on dialect, but scholarship in Italian has converged on condottiero. Nonetheless, the English Wikipedia article title should reflect established English usage, regardless of modern Italian usage. RabidTuberculosis (talk) 02:54, 21 May 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 02:50, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Commonest form in English-language sources. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:09, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
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