Talk:Codru (forest)

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Not questioning the correctness of the rewritten article, I would like to see the comment about the term Codri Hills (Podişul Codrilor) while filling this gap in the article Geography of Moldova. In fact I created this (as you say wrong) stub from the supposedly reputable source, EB article. If EB is wrong, ours may be added to our hall of fame it this tug-of war WP vs EB :-). And to edit Geography of Moldova correspondingly. `'юзырь:mikka 23:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Podişul Codrilor is ok in Romanian, b/c literaly it means the plateau of the Codri (plateau not in the sense of "flat" but of "elevated"). The best translation in English would be indeed Codri Hills, but it's a game of chicken and egg, who's first :-) I do not oppose the existence of an article Codri Hills if it is shorter and gives a reference for more details to a much longer Codri. But I searched, and WP does not have one, so instead of creating a new one, I simply renamed the old. I can recreate the old one if you want, I have no preference whether there should be 1 or 2 articles. Only, the absense of an article Codri altogether was a little odd, esp given that Codri Hills existed.

I do not know how BE is organized exactly, but it appears to me that they have an article "physiography of Moldova", and some kind of key word search Codri Hills would point there. Also, a simple search of both codri and codri hills on BE site gives 2 sub-articles of Moldova - "Plant and animal life" and "Relief". I'm guessing it's like Polessie (I do not know much about Polessie) - is it known first for the marshland or first for being a flat lowland? Humans did not necessarely gave names in the same order as 21st century geographers would do - first by terain, then by vegetation.

Also, you are right, "Montains in Moldova" sounds very funny. Unlike in Russian, we don't call anything below 1000 m mountains (munţi), just hills (dealuri). I'm not sure if the 1000m is also valid for English, but I sincerely doubt at 429m. Maybe it is "relative", not "absolte". But still, they don't stand each alone that much to be called mountains in any sense. :Dc76 23:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Ya, it's a small mess in Geography of Moldova. What they refer to Codri Hills there is the part of the Codri that was mostly preserved. There is no such thing as Balti steppe, there are only hills, but they are a little more gentlier than 70 km to the south, and (important) mostly unforested. Also "gentlier" is relative, since if you are near a river (even a small one), it can be very steep. I'll think how to fix it. :Dc76 00:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Other language articles?

@A. B. Please could you link the other language articles you mention. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:12, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

There should be a list of them somewhere on your browser or else a dropdown menu. —A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 13:27, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

ok thanks not sure why I did not see before. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Merge?

If I understand ro:Codru (masiv forestier din Republica Moldova) right Codru is the name of the massif.

So should we merge into Central Moldavian Plateau? Chidgk1 (talk) 14:20, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

"massif forestier" is 'forest massif', and "massif" is .er...., 'massif'. I am still thinking what to do with the article. The problem it that Kodru is more socio-cultural concept, rather than simply geographical; see ro:Codru. --Altenmann >talk 16:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

@Pragmatic Puffin Should we merge with Codru Reserve per the cite you added? Chidgk1 (talk) 09:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

I think on reasons of accuracy and naming that might not be the best solution. As far as I understand it, the reserve is a subarea of the larger forest. The example of the Black forest is illustrative, where the reserves are independent articles referenced in a section Black_Forest#Conservation_areas. Hence, I think restructuring the Codru article to a more appropriate state would be better than a blunt merge (although admittedly more work). Pragmatic Puffin (talk) 10:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

I started making sense with the article. I took a long time of waiting after the deletion attempt for moldovan/romanian wikipedians to act, but it seems they do not care. Not accidentally, I started with the cultural impact, because that's what "Codru" is for Moldavians: a cultural concept. --Altenmann >talk 19:22, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

offtopic rant

I really hate writing articles on subjects I have no slightest idea, such as Glossary of pre-Christian Lithuanian names or Political terror in Finland and Baltic States after World War I, especially seeing the deeply insulting essays of kind "Wikipedia does not need you". Sure thing, for 25 years Wikipedia was well and good without the article "Estonian name". And just as well the internets will not ripple if Codru (forest) gets deleted. But something makes me write numerous useless articles on subjects nobody cares about. It must be Wikipediholism... --Altenmann >talk 19:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Please, PLEASE do not attach random footnotes to random places of the article. You are making the things only worse: the article starts looking referenced, but in fact it is remains not. In many a place elsewhere I have fix similar problems I call "fake referencing". People act insulted "WTF, how it is fake? The ref I cite does exist!" But it is still a fake reference, because it does not support the statement to which it was attached. --Altenmann >talk 19:45, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Requested move 28 June 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 21:50, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

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• Codru (forest) → Codru
• Codru → Codru (disambiguation)Codru (disambiguation)

– Codru as forest is the primary meaning, as it is clearly seen in the backlinks. --Altenmann >talk 20:29, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. There is no topic that is primary by usage (has more views than all other entries combined), see . Codru, Moldova has significantly more views than Codru (forest). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:46, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

  I agree with Shhhnotsoloud. Gikü (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.