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Latest comment: 3 months ago by Msalt in topic The palindrome

History of the Codex

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There is clearly a typo in the middle of the second paragraph. It starts, "The modern history of the codex begins in 1554 ...," then later it says, "the codex was sent to George Cassander after September 1755," followed by, "Next mention of the codex is ... in 1597." I guess that second date should read "1575," but I don't have a source for that, just inference. Kelseymh (talk) 04:34, 8 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

The palindrome

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Wasn't sure where else to put this, since a quick internet search didn't turn up any promising authorities. I suppose this is "original research" - speculation at least - but thought maybe the talk page would be ok.

The palindrome given in the article seems to break up fairly easily into Latin (or Latin-ish) words, which I fed into an online translator word by word.

So the palindrome:

METROHOCANGISSITISSIGNACOHORTEM

becomes:

METRO HOC ANGIS SITIS SIGNA COHORTEM

which translates roughly into:

Meter This Causes pain “you may be” OR thirst/drought/dryness Signs A band of soldiers

If you run it all at once, I get "Thirst meter this Angie standards of the cohorts" - not really that much better, but perhaps between the two we can figure out a rough meaning.

Sounds a bit like "This turn of phrase might hurt; it's not up to standard (of soldiers)." Or maybe 'cohort' makes it one of the older 'designed by committee' jokes.

Any thoughts?

99.155.81.40 (talk) 04:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Ludwig Traube emended this verse in 1888 to something more intelligible: metro hoc Angis<is>, sitis <si>, signa cohortem. I believe that his emendation has been generally accepted by philologists. See Traube, Ludwig, Karolingische Dichtunge: Æđelwulf. Alchuine. Angilbert. Rhythmen. (Berlin: Weidmannsche Buchhandlung) 1888, P. 132 n. 4. Msalt (talk) 18:43, 10 April 2026 (UTC)Reply