Talk:Code noir

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when did this code cease? Kingturtle (talk) 16:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Briefly between 1794 (slavery abolished) and 1802 (slavery reinstated) and definitely in 1848 (slavery abolished again),though moderated by case laws less unfavorable to the slave between 1815 and 1848. 78.242.229.238 (talk) 04:24, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Code N/noir

The normal form of the work's title is "Code noir", as with "Code civil". That is how it is spelt at the beginning of this article as well as throughout WP:fr "Code noir". Would anyone object to changing to Code noir in the title of this article and throughout? Wikiain (talk) 23:28, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

It should be standardized in English Wikipedia, that I agree with. However, I'm not sure which way it should be. Google's Ngram Viewer up to 2008 gives "Code Noir" as the most common occurrence in English, particularly over the past century. Ngram viewer for Code Noir That seems to be the treatment in the U.S. French has a somewhat different handling of capitalization at times from what I recall. This one is tricky since the term is used in both languages for the same thing. I would likely leave both words capitalized in English, and the second lower case in French. Red Harvest (talk) 08:21, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this. Non-capitalisation of the second word would be normal in French: e.g. "Code civil" (my specialised knowledge but also borne out by Ngram). However, when your Ngram seach is done for French, "Code Noir" and "Code noir" are found to be trending equally. I guess that this has to do with the politics of "N/oir": in the same period, searching in French, "les Noirs" suddenly takes over from "les noirs" around 1940. In this light, I'm not so uncomfortable with the article as it is. However, WP:fr has "Code noir" throughout and, while it is not a source, I'm inclined to take it as advice not to depart from normal French practice. Wikiain (talk) 23:20, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

The name of a group of people normally isn't capitalized in French. One writes "noirs",not "Noirs", "français",not "Français." 78.242.229.238 (talk) 04:31, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Put back the Code Noir poster /image of the young black man with the sadistic contraptions forced on to his face.

Why was the aforesaid imaged taken off.. French PR? 2A00:23C7:2B1F:4801:4855:D097:9082:F72B (talk) 22:29, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Next time please provide a diff of the edit, or at least a link to the file in question. I can find no such image having been removed. There was an image replaced by user:Crawdad Blues four months ago because the page in the image is already used elsewhere the article. I'm assuming that is the image the IP is concerned about, even though I see no "sadistic contraptions forced on to his face" and the image was actually added rather than being removed. Meters (talk) 00:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, unless my reading of the history is mistaken, the article never contained an image of any human being at all until I added a photo of the 1743 edition of Code noir a few months ago. That edition, unlike the 1742 edition, does have a small image of the head and shoulders of a black man on the title page. It is still in the article today, although as User:Meters says, there is no "sadistic contraption" on his face, nor is there any image with such a contraption in the Code noir category in the Commons. The IP is obviously confused, but whatever they saw and wherever they saw it, it was evidently not here. Crawdad Blues (talk) 13:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Suggested reorganisation

This article is quite messy in its organization. I reorganized it, removed practically redundant information and removed a few information given by dubious sources.

See the draft here. It doesn't aim to solve the problems in the article's content, but simply to reorganize and slightly trim it to create a good base for future edits. Parts of the Impact section could be reintegrated in the draft.

Any suggestions/objections? Bastobasto (talk) 21:25, 6 July 2025 (UTC)