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Latest comment: 3 months ago by ~2026-24401-86 in topic Poor references added April 2026

Inifinity-norm

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Can someone please make infinity-norm a link: infinity-norm

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Sabotage

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V-means clustering

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A Google search for "V-means clustering" only returns this Wikipedia article. Can someone provide a citation for this?

for future ref, this is the V-means paragraph that was removed

V-means clustering

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V-means clustering utilizes cluster analysis and nonparametric statistical tests to key researchers into segments of data that may contain distinct homogenous sub-sets. The methodology embraced by V-means clustering circumvents many of the problems that traditionally beleaguer standard techniques for categorizing data. First, instead of relying on analyst predictions for the number of distinct sub-sets (k-means clustering), V-means clustering generates a pareto optimal number of sub-sets. V-means clustering is calibrated to a usened confidence level p, whereby the algorithm divides the data and then recombines the resulting groups until the probability that any given group belongs to the same distribution as either of its neighbors is less than p.

Second, V-means clustering makes use of repeated iterations of the nonparametric Kolmogorov-Smirnov test. Standard methods of dividing data into its constituent parts are often entangled in definitions of distances (distance measure clustering) or in assumptions about the normality of the data (expectation maximization clustering), but nonparametric analysis draws inference from the distribution functions of sets.

Third, the method is conceptually simple. Some methods combine multiple techniques in sequence in order to produce more robust results. From a practical standpoint this muddles the meaning of the results and frequently leads to conclusions typical of “data dredging.”

Fuzzy c-means clarification

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I believe ther is a typo at "typological analysis"; should be "topological"

The explanation of the fuzzy c-means algorithm seems quite difficult to follow, the actual order of the bullet points is correct but which bit is to be repeated and when is misleading.

"The fuzzy c-means algorithm is greatly similar to the k-means algorithm:

  • Choose a number of clusters
  • Assign randomly to each point coefficients for being in the clusters
  • Repeat until the algorithm has converged (that is, the coefficients' change between two iterations is no more than ε, the given sensitivity threshold) :
    • Compute the centroid for each cluster, using the formula above
    • For each point, compute its coefficients of being in the clusters, using the formula above"

Also aren't c-means and k-means just different names for the same thing, in which case can they be changed to be consistent throughout?



The c-means clustering relates only to the fuzzy logic clustering algorithm. You could say that k-means is teh convergence of c-clustering with ordinary logic, rather than fuzzy logic.

Remove or update grid-based clustering?

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The grid-based clustering section has no real references and poorly described in comparison to the rest of the article.

Poor references added April 2026

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Some of the recent changes (is this some class?) are of rather poor quality. They read like an advertisement. E.g., it is claimed that centroid-based clustering is good for customer segmentstion, but in fact they require continuous attributes with IID errors, and do not work well on such data (with discrete attributes and varying scales, skewed distributions etc.) at all! The problem is there is a lot of crap science (e.g., from Indian predators publishers) where people just cluster random stuff and present their results, but never evaluate the usefulness. One additiononly cites an arXiv preprint that is even withdrawn!

Such huge "applications" sections tend to attract citation spam, too. ~2026-24483-49 (talk) 06:12, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Now a similar edit pattern on the k-means article. I wonder if this is some OpenClaw AI agent doing these edits...  Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-24401-86 (talk) 18:43, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply