Talk:Cliff Alexander

GA Review

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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 21:47, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Nominator: TonyTheTiger(T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD)

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 21:47, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

1: Well-written

• a. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors: .
• b. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

WP:LEAD:

 Done

1. Check for Correct Structure of Lead Section:  Done
2. Check for Citations (WP:LEADCITE):  Done
3. Check for Introductory text:  Done
   • Check for Provide an accessible overview (MOS:INTRO):  Done
     • Major Point 1: Freshman "He did not play organized basketball until eighth grade, but by late in his freshman season he became a notable contributor to his high school's varsity team". (summarised well in the lead)
     • Major Point 2: Sophomore "He has been ranked among the top 20 prospects in the national class of 2014 since prior to his sophomore season although he started slowly as a freshman.". (summarised well in the lead)
     • Major Point 3: Junior "" None. (The lead is not a concise summary of the content in the body)
     • Major Point 4: Senior "He has given a verbal commitment to the Kansas University men's basketball team and will be a freshman for the 2014–15 team." summarises only Summer and preseason and it's not concise. (The lead is not a concise summary of the content in the body)
     • Major Point 5: Comparisons "" None. (The lead is not a concise summary of the content in the body)
   • Check for Relative emphasis:  Done
     • Major Point 1: Freshman (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
     • Major Point 2: Sophomore (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
     • Major Point 3: Junior (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
     • Major Point 4: Senior (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
     • Major Point 5: Comparisons (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
   • Check for Opening paragraph (MOS:BEGIN):  Done
     • Check for First sentence (WP:LEADSENTENCE):  Done
     • Check for Format of the first sentence (MOS:BOLDTITLE):  Done
     • Check for Proper names and titles:  Done
     • Check for Abbreviations and synonyms (MOS:BOLDSYN): None
     • Check for Foreign language (MOS:FORLANG): None
     • Check for Pronunciation: None
     • Check for Contextual links (MOS:CONTEXTLINK):  Done
4. Check for Alternative names (MOS:LEADALT):  Done
   • Check for Non-English titles:
   • Check for Usage in first sentence:
   • Check for Separate section usage:
5. Check for Length (WP:LEADLENGTH):  Done
   • The lead is too short in comparison to the content in the body and should be expanded.
6. Check for Clutter (WP:LEADCLUTTER): None

WP:LAYOUT:

 Done

Check for WP:LAYOUT:  Done

1. Check for Body sections: WP:BODY, MOS:BODY.  Done
   • Check for Headings and sections:  Done
   • Check for Section templates and summary style:  Done
   • Check for Paragraphs (MOS:PARAGRAPHS):  Done
     • Paragraphs should be short enough to be readable, but long enough to develop an idea. Overly long paragraphs should be split up, as long as the cousin paragraphs keep the idea in focus. WP:BETTER
     • Fix long paragraph in subsection Summer and preseason - "On September 15 Alexander ... "
     • Fix short paragraph in subsection Comparisons - "He is known as the type of player ... "
2. Check for Standard appendices and footers (MOS:APPENDIX):  Done
   • Check for Order of sections (WP:ORDER):  Done
   • Check for Works or publications: None
   • Check for See also section (MOS:SEEALSO): None
   • Check for Notes and references (WP:FNNR):  Done
   • Check for Further reading (WP:FURTHER): None
   • Check for External links (WP:LAYOUTEL):  Done
   • Check for Links to sister projects: None
   • Check for Navigation templates: None
3. Check for Formatting:  Done
   • Check for Images (WP:LAYIM):  Done
   • Check for Links:  Done
   • Check for Horizontal rule (WP:LINE):  Done

WP:WTW:

 Done

Check for WP:WTW:  Done

1. Check for Words that may introduce bias:  Done
   • Check for Puffery (WP:PEA):  Done
   • Check for Contentious labels (WP:LABEL):  Done
   • Check for Unsupported attributions (WP:WEASEL):  Done
   • Check for Expressions of doubt (WP:ALLEGED):  Done
   • Check for Editorializing (MOS:OPED):  Done
   • Check for Synonyms for said (WP:SAY):  Done
2. Check for Expressions that lack precision:  Done
   • Check for Euphemisms (WP:EUPHEMISM):  Done
   • Check for Clichés and idioms (WP:IDIOM):  Done
   • Check for Relative time references (WP:REALTIME):  Done
   • Check for Neologisms (WP:PEA):  Done
3. Check for Offensive material (WP:F***):  Done

Check for WP:MOSFICT: NA

1. Check for Real-world perspective (WP:Real world): NA
   • Check for Primary and secondary information (WP:PASI): NA
   • Check for Contextual presentation (MOS:PLOT): NA

WP:EMBED:

 Done

• Prose is preferred over list (WP:PROSE):  Done
• Check for Tables (MOS:TABLES):  Done
  • The table is standard in such articles.

WP:BLP:

 Done

Check for WP:BLP:  Done

1. Check for Writing style (WP:BLPSTYLE):  Done
   • Check for Tone:  Done
   • Check for Balance (WP:COAT):  Done
2. Check for Reliable sources:  Done
   • Check for Challenged or likely to be challenged (WP:BLPSOURCES):  Done
   • Check for Remove unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material (WP:GRAPEVINE):  Done
   • Check for Avoid gossip and feedback loops (WP:BLPGOSSIP):  Done
   • Check for Avoid misuse of primary sources (WP:BLPPRIMARY):  Done
   • Check for Avoid self-published sources (WP:BLPSPS):  Done
     • Twitter. Addressed in RS.
   • Check for Further reading, external links, and see also (WP:BLPEL):  Done
     • Twitter. Addressed in RS.
3. Check for Presumption in favor of privacy:  Done
   • Check for Avoid victimization (WP:AVOIDVICTIM):  Done
   • Check for Public figures (WP:PUBLICFIGURE):  Done
   • Check for Privacy of personal information and using primary sources (WP:DOB):  Done
   • Check for People who are relatively unknown (WP:NPF):  Done
   • Check for Subjects notable only for one event (WP:BLP1E):  Done
   • Check for Persons accused of crime[ (WP:BLPCRIME):  Done
   • Check for Privacy of names (WP:BLPNAME):  Done

2: Verifiable with no original research

• a. Has an appropriate reference section: Yes
• b. Citation to reliable sources where necessary: good

WP:RS:

 Done

1. Check for the material (WP:RSVETTING): (BLP)  Done
   • Is it contentious?: Yes
   • Does the ref indeed support the material?:
2. Check for the author (WP:RSVETTING):  Done
   • Who is the author?:
     • Scout.com
     • Rivals.com
     • ESPN
     • Chicago Tribune
     • Chicago Sun-Times
     • Comcast SportsNet
     • Chicago Sun-Times
     • ESPN HS
     • SLAM Magazine
     • KUSports.com
     • Marshall County Daily
     • The Hoosier Scoop
     • High School Cube
     • Journal Star
     • NBC Sports
     • Lake County News-Sun
     • HighSchoolHardwood.com
     • Twitter
     • SB Nation
     • The Courier-Journal
     • Kansas City Star
     • Bleacher Report
     • MassLive.com
     • USA Today
     • Kansas.com
     • StudentSports.com
     • Sporting News
     • NBADraft.net
     • USA Basketball
   • Does the author have a Wikipedia article?: Yes (for major sources)
   • What are the author's academic credentials and professional experience?:
   • What else has the author published?:
   • Is the author, or this work, cited in other reliable sources? In academic works?:
3. Check for the publication (WP:RSVETTING):  Done
   • Reliable.
   • Twitter is used as a source but it satisfies about themselves criteria.
   • Blogs of Chicago Sun-Times are used as sources (Source 16) but it satisfies WP:NEWSBLOG.
   • All sources are accessible
   • Random check on sources (1-7,26,27,32,33,35,38,46,49,51,55,58,61-64,95).
4. Check for Self-published sources (WP:SPS):  Done
   • Twitter is used as a source in 55,64,66,67,68,70,75 but self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field.

WP:MINREF:

Check for inline citations WP:MINREF:  Done

1. Check for Direct quotations:  Done
   • "NO ORDER❗❗❗ TOP 10 School Kansas, Michigan state, Kentucky, Louisville, Illinois, DePaul, Indiana, Memphis, Baylor, Arizona NO ORDER"[55]
   • " perhaps the most powerful player in the high school ranks".[4]
   • "My top 6 schools NO ORDER Michigan state, Illinois, Memphis, DePaul, Kansas, Arizona".[64]
   • "...can shoot the 15-footer, put it on the floor, post moves, sets good screens."[52]
2. Check for Likely to be challenged:  Done (cited well)
   • For instance:
   • He is known[who?] as a powerful big man.[4]
   • Following his freshman season, Alexander began to be recognized by local evaluators as a potential top national recruit.[11]
   • After Jabari Parker and Jahlil Okafor, Alexander was already considered the best Chicago area basketball prospect.[6]
   • However, as Alexander entered his sophomore season, he was one of three area prospects that were firmly among the national class of 2014's top 25 prospects (along with Whitney M. Young Magnet High School teammates Okafor and Paul White).[16]
   • ...
3. Check for Contentious material about living persons (WP:BLP):  Done

• c. No original research:  Done

WP:NOR:

 Done

1. Check for primary sources (WP:PRIMARY):  Done
2. Check for synthesis (WP:SYN):  Done
3. Check for original images (WP:OI):  Done

3: Broad in its coverage

a. Major aspects:

 Done

1. Check for Article scope as defined by reliable sources:  Done
   1. Check for The extent of the subject matter in these RS:  Done
   2. Check for Out of scope:  Done
2. Check for The range of material that belongs in the article:  Done
   1. Check for All material that is notable is covered:  Done
   2. Check for All material that is referenced is covered:  Done
   3. Check for All material that a reader would be likely to agree matches the specified scope is covered:  Done
   4. Check for The most general scope that summarises essentially all knowledge:  Done
   5. Check for Stay on topic and no wandering off-topic (WP:OFFTOPIC):

 Done

b. Focused:

 Done

1. Check for Readability issues (WP:LENGTH):  Done
2. Check for Article size (WP:TOO LONG!):  Done

4: Neutral

WP:NPOV:

 Done

4. Fair representation without bias:  Done

1. Check for POV (WP:YESPOV):  Done
2. Check for naming (WP:POVNAMING):  Done
3. Check for structure (WP:STRUCTURE):  Done
4. Check for Due and undue weight (WP:DUE):  Done
5. Check for Balancing aspects (WP:BALASPS):  Done
6. Check for Giving "equal validity" (WP:VALID):  Done
7. Check for Balance (WP:YESPOV):  Done
8. Check for Impartial tone (WP:IMPARTIAL):  Done
9. Check for Describing aesthetic opinions (WP:SUBJECTIVE):  Done
10. Check for Words to watch (WP:YESPOV):  Done
11. Check for Attributing and specifying biased statements (WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV):  Done
12. Check for Fringe theories and pseudoscience (WP:PSCI): None
13. Check for Religion (WP:RNPOV): None

5: Stable: No edit wars, etc:

6: Images  Done (Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license)

Images:

 Done

6: Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:  Done

1. Check for copyright tags (WP:TAGS):  Done
   • Image 1 (20130307 Cliff Alexander drives on Jahlil Okafor cropped.jpg): This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. This version permits free use, including commercial use. Hence this image complies with The license must permit both commercial reuse and derivative works.
   • Image 2 (20130307 Cliff Alexander blocks Paul White cropped.JPG): This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. This version permits free use, including commercial use. Hence this image complies with The license must permit both commercial reuse and derivative works.
   • Image 3 (20130307 Cliff Alexander dunking.JPG): This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. This version permits free use, including commercial use. Hence this image complies with The license must permit both commercial reuse and derivative works.
   • Image 4 (20130307 Cliff Alexander against Jahlil Okafor cropped): This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. This version permits free use, including commercial use. Hence this image complies with The license must permit both commercial reuse and derivative works.
2. Check for copyright status:  Done
   • Image 1 (20130307 Cliff Alexander drives on Jahlil Okafor cropped.jpg): Free.
   • Image 2 (20130307 Cliff Alexander blocks Paul White cropped.JPG): Free.
   • Image 3 (20130307 Cliff Alexander dunking.JPG): Free.
   • Image 4 (20130307 Cliff Alexander against Jahlil Okafor cropped): Free.
3. Check for non-free content (WP:NFC): None
4. Check for valid fair use rationales (WP:FUR): NA

6: Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:  Done

1. Check for image relevance (WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE):  Done
   • Image 1 (20130307 Cliff Alexander drives on Jahlil Okafor cropped.jpg): Relevant.
   • Image 2 (20130307 Cliff Alexander blocks Paul White cropped.JPG): Relevant.
   • Image 3 (20130307 Cliff Alexander dunking.JPG): Relevant.
   • Image 4 (20130307 Cliff Alexander against Jahlil Okafor cropped): Relevant.
2. Check for Images for the lead (WP:LEADIMAGE):  Done
   • Image 1 (20130307 Cliff Alexander drives on Jahlil Okafor cropped.jpg): Appropriate & Representative.
3. Check for suitable captions (WP:CAPTION):  Done
   • Caption 1: "Alexander drives on Jahlil Okafor (March 7, 2013)" succinct and informative
   • Caption 2: "Alexander blocks Paul White during the March 7, 2013 IHSA playoffs" succinct and informative
   • Caption 3: "Alexander dunking during the March 7, 2013 IHSA playoffs" succinct and informative
   • Caption 4: "Alexander in the low post against Jahlil Okafor as Paul White collapses on help defense." succinct and informative

As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

• The lead does not provide an accessible overview and does not give relative emphasis.
• The lead is too short in comparison to the content in the body and should be expanded.
• Paragraphs that are very long and very short.

This article is a very promising GA nominee. I'm glad to see your work here. I'm putting the article on hold. All the best! --Seabuckthorn ♥ 23:45, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

A rough analysis of Relative emphasis and due weight for this article could be as given below.

The body of the article is of 2500 words approximately. The distribution of words among sections and subsections is:

• High school career (2400 words)
  • Freshman (200 words)
  • Sophomore (200 words)
  • Junior (700 words)
  • Senior (1100 words)
    • Summer and preseason (900 words)
    • 2013-14 regular season (200 words)
  • Comparisons (200)
• International play (60 words)

The percentage distribution of words is:

• High school career (96% of 2500 words)
  • Freshman (8% of 2500 words)
  • Sophomore (8% of 2500 words)
  • Junior (28% of 2500 words)
  • Senior (44% of 2500 words)
    • Summer and preseason (36% of 2500 words)
    • 2013-14 regular season (8% of 2500 words)
  • Comparisons (8% of 2500 words)
• International play (2.5% of 2500 words)

Lets assume the lead is about 10% of the body. The number of words in the lead would be around 250. Considering the percentage distribution and the due weight, the distribution of words in the lead would be:

• High school career (96% of 250 words = 240)
  • Freshman (8% of 250 words = 20)
  • Sophomore (8% of 250 words = 20)
  • Junior (28% of 250 words = 70)
  • Senior (44% of 250 words = 110)
    • Summer and preseason (36% of 250 words = 90)
    • 2013-14 regular season (8% of 250 words = 20)
  • Comparisons (8% of 250 words = 20)
• International play (2.5% of 250 words = 7)

The lead representative of the body should roughly give due weight in terms of the proportion as is given below:

• High school career (240 words)
  • Freshman (20 words)
  • Sophomore (20 words)
  • Junior (70 words)
  • Senior (110 words)
    • Summer and preseason (90 words)
    • 2013-14 regular season (20 words)
  • Comparisons (20 words)
• International play (7 words)

I'm giving you a very rough analysis of relative emphasis and due weight which I hope would be useful in conveying my expectations, as a GA reviewer, of a good lead. The lead should approximate my analysis. If you feel I'm wrong anywhere, feel free to correct me or ignore the suggestions altogether. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 19:16, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• First, I have never seen a proportionate emphasis request for a WP:LEAD. I understand that is what Wikipedia:LEAD#Relative emphasis says, but I have never been asked to do so. I am not sure how close I want to get to the numbers suggested, but I will take a look.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:02, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Apologies. Ignore the example altogether. But do you agree that the lead needs to be expanded for it to provide an accessible overview and give relative emphasis? --Seabuckthorn ♥ 23:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

The lead looks much better now. Tell me when you are done. I'll take a final look then. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 23:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm sort of done.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Although I'm still not satisfied with the lead, but I think I'll go with your good judgement. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 04:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Passing the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 04:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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Article review

It has been a while since this article was reviewed, so I took a look and noticed that the "Professional career" section was underdeveloped and suffered from MOS:OVERSECTION. Should this article go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 16:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)