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Latest comment: 3 months ago by CROIX in topic Antigua and Barbuda

The language of the Ciboney people & their origins - Weasels words

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I removed the following line of text from the article due to it being unrefranced and riddled with weasel words.

"It has been proposed that they spoke an Arawakan language and that they originated from the Guajira Department of Colombia, [citation needed]"

If a source can be found for above statements, then add them to the article along with the source. --Joel M. (talk) 12:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

I believe the source for the quote in question derives from Encyclopædia Britannica, vol. 3, p.313: "Ciboney" and p. 773: "Cuba (History)". Chicago, 1989. I can't confirm this since the online version cuts off at the explanation. www.britannica.com - Ciboney
Can someone confirm this information? --Joel M. (talk) 15:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ciboney living in the Lesser Antilles

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I removed the following line of text from the article due to it being unrefranced and riddled with weasel words.

"Allegedly they also lived on some of the Lesser Antilles."[citation needed]

The facts for the "allegedly" claim has been hanging since December 2007.

If a source can be found for above statements, then add them to the article along with the source. --Joel M. (talk) 12:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Amount of Ciboney chieftain around 1492 & Ciboney population. - No Citation

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I removed the text below due to the facts that it states and the nature of it not being able to be verified/cited.

At the time of Columbus' arrival in 1492, there were twenty-nine principal Cacique (chieftain) territories on Cuba,[citation needed] the largest Ciboney population being found in the chieftaincy of Habana.

When the source or research for the claim above can be found, please reenther the information along with the source. --Joel M. (talk) 13:13, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ciboney Ancestry in Florida - No Citation

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The text below was removed due to the specific claim it makes with no source or citation.

Nevertheless, allegedly there are 253 families of Ciboney ancestry in Florida still today.[citation needed]

If a source can be found for above statements, then add the information to the article along with the source. --Joel M. (talk) 13:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Antigua and Barbuda

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@CROIX There's a category here for Antigua and Barbuda. Did the Ciboney/Siboney live in Antigua and Barbuda? Do we know if that is accurate? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

No. According to Archaeology Antigua, the Siboney never lived on the islands. However, their relatives, the eastern Taínos (Taínos being a subgroup of Arawak), did inhabit the region. CROIXtalk 23:56, 19 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I've removed the inaccurate categories. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 00:00, 20 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@CROIX Also, do we have a particular term or terms for the eastern Taínos or for those that specifically lived on Antigua and Barbuda? I know elsewhere there were specific terms like Lucayan in the Bahamas, Xaraguá in part of Hispaniola, Yamaye in Jamaica, etc. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 00:03, 20 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
There are no specific ethnonyms for these people in widespread use in Antigua and Barbuda: usually these people are described as Arawak (a sort of hypernym for the eastern Taínos) or by the name of their time period (Saladoid) in academic literature. CROIXtalk 00:09, 20 April 2026 (UTC)Reply