Talk:Christopher Street

Gay City link

Is the "Gay City" link useful? It seems to be nothing but ads and a listing of bars. - Jmabel | Talk 03:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

That's what Christopher Street is. TRWBW 02:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Move?

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 16:15, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

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Christopher Street (Manhattan) → Christopher Street –

• No reason for a disambiguated title, when we have Christopher Street (disambiguation) for that CTJF83 17:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
• Or move Christopher Street (disambiguation) to Christopher Street? There are likely many Christopher Streets in the world (and a man called Chris Street). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:39, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

• This article gets more page views than the other pages listed on the dab page, but not overwhelmingly so. Eg. 2,4k for this one, 1,6k for Christopher Street Day and 1,2k for Christopher Street (PATH station). It can be argued that this is enough for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC status, especially since most of the items on the dab page have been named after the street, but I'd support moving the dab page to Christopher Street since it's not that big a difference. The fact that some of the items on the dab page are also located on Manhattan makes the current disambiguator slightly problematic, though. Jafeluv (talk) 12:20, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
  • But your point that everything except Chris Street (basketball) (which by the way can we discuss getting rid of "basketball" on him also) is named after the actual street, so shouldn't that be the primary topic? CTJF83 18:12, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
    • That's certainly a defensible position too, and I would have no big issues with that solution. The basketball player can definitely be moved to the disambiguated title since he's the only person by that name on Wikipedia and Chris Street already redirects there. Jafeluv (talk) 12:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
      • Moved the basketball player to Chris Street. Jafeluv (talk) 19:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Images

Per MOS:IM: "Each image should be inside the level 2 section to which it relates, within the section defined by the most recent ==Heading== delimited by two equal signs, or at the top of the lead section. Do not place images immediately above section headings."

You have provided no reason why this clear statement should be ignored. This is by no means a "common sense exception". Pointing out that is is a guideline not a policy is not a reason to ignore it. Reywas92^Talk 01:23, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

The image appears directly to the right of the section it pertains to, and is thus visually "in" the section. Anyone reading the section will see the image as it appears immediately next to it; it's not elsewhere in the article. This is sufficient, and is indeed a common sense exception.

Please remember that MOS is a guideline and not a policy. MOS is not mandatory, and edit warring to enforce it is not acceptable per WP:EW. Every MOS page carries this disclaimer:

This guideline is a part of the English Wikipedia's Manual of Style. It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply.

Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:26, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

No. If that were sufficient, it would not be explicitly pointed out in the MOS as something NOT to do! How do you like it if people copied and pasted material from other sources into your articles and then they whined, "But Wikipedia:Plagiarism is just a guideline, not a policy!"? Don't give me your copy-and-paste BS on my talk page as an excuse to ignore the formatting styles that have been laid out by consensus. Reywas92^Talk 01:34, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Your argument makes no logical sense, and the rest I'll write off as mere pique. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:23, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Popular culture category

Christopher street has been mentioned in the LGBTQ show POSE on FX. 52.119.126.52 (talk) 08:57, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

"Charles Christopher Amos"

I'm a descendant of Richard Amos, the true namesake of Amos Street.

Through years of research, I can definitively state that the claim that Charles Christopher Amos (or Christopher Charles - take your pick) is the namesake for streets in the area is unequivocally false on several fronts. First, there was no Christopher Amos in New York at the time, much less one that was either Richard's brother or an heir to the Warren Estate (which is also untrue). Second, Richard Amos purchased the land from Wiloughby Bertie, Fourth Earl of Abingdon and his wife Charlotte (the actual Warren heir in this equation). Please, by all means, consult the original document located in Liber 53 on Page 1 of New York County land records. It settles the discussion. End of story.

As to a Charles Amos as a namesake: It is true that Richard Amos had a son named Charles who would have been an heir to some of his land, but Charles Amos was born after the street was named. It's probable that the true namesake is Charles Bruff, who had been leasing the property from the Warrens for years and was named on Richard's property indenture.

I'm writing a book on Richard Amos, whose story is actually well worth remembering. It's just a shame that it's being retold by people consulting poorly researched books rather than digging into original sources like property records and wills, calcifying an urban legend as fact.

Richard Amos was a Revolutionary War soldier and probable spy (but not of the Culper Ring) who bought the land bounded by present-day Charles Street on the north, Christopher Street on the south, Greenwich Street on the west, and around halfway between Hudson Street and Bleecker Streets on Christopher. He gave the land, gratis, to the city to lay Amos (now West Tenth) Street, and Hudson and Greenwich Streets between Charles and Christopher Streets, and the city appreciated him so much that they hardly waited for his body to turn cold before renaming Amos Street to a number.

Source: "New York, Land Records, 1630-1975," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WG-C3LX?cc=2078654&wc=M7CF-VWL%3A358138101%2C360822801 : [REFERENCE-ERROR]), New York > Conveyances 1796-1798 vol 52-55 > image 86 of 757; multiple county courthouses, New York.

Museum of the City of New York - Search Result Amos Researcher (talk) 02:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)