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This does not read as an advertisement. I read it as giving facts along with dates --Mrath 19:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I agree. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scottydoo33 (talkcontribs) 20:35, 12 October 2006.

Removed advertisement notice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scottydoo33 (talkcontribs) 20:37, 12 October 2006.

Language like "pioneered" (which may be true), "impressive growth" (again, may be true), "revolutionary," and "designed to be luxurious and affordable at the same time" are what led me to place the advert tag on the article. Could someone possibly edit the style/tone of the article to make it read less like a press release? Khatru2 07:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I don't see any sign of advertising here, but the tag has returned. Can someone review it and see if it's worth retaining the tag? I don't see it. 72.86.42.38 (talk) 13:55, 27 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


Did Rob Spurr really play such a big part in the company as the article says he did?

Travelodge1221 19:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Reply


I think it would be helpful to explain how the different sub-chains compare to each other, particularly Quality vs Comfort. Erich Fabricius 18:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Logo choicehotels.gif

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BetacommandBot (talk) 00:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

I would love to see the development of the Sleep/Comfort/Quality logos over the years. If I remember correctly, they used to just be circles with increasing numbers of stripes... 71.234.109.192 (talk) 19:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Retarded Product List

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It's so stupid to link the "products" back to the page you're currently viewing... Why don't these products have individual stubs? Each one is different in various ways. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.129.10 (talk) 11:17, 1 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

'The local People

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Sirs: Thank you to the Comfort Suites in Niceville, Florida for taking us in after our home burned twice on New years eve. What kindness they showed. I thought it was lost in our area. My family are the founders of this area and go back four generations. My husband's father was military and my husband was born here also. My husband's father started several businesses and my husband holds down three jobs trying to make ends meet. We cleaned up after the first fire and the Marshall said it was safe to go back. But, since our home was strong and older the wonderful old pine was lighting up our ceiling in our kitchen and not with Christmas lights. I tried again to put this fire out, but the marshall told mem to leave. The water hose didn't work. Mostly water and mold damage, but very cold even in FL. The things the people did here where kind and needed. My husband works for AFLAC and does music. I am a singer and an educator for many years. However I am disabled and way over sixty as is my husband. My adopted native American son is autistic with other problems and still with us. God help us. My mother started the first Baptist church of FWB over 70 years ago in her home. My mother n law charter member of the Catholic church, so I am a member of both. Where are the so called people when we need them... Again, I know you are corp. America. But, we are not. I am related to Clara Barton and Susan B. Anthony. My Mama was the youngest of 11 and a Kennedy. My husband's mother came through Ellis Island, married her first husband, joined the service to find him. He never returned. After five years she married and at the age of 35 she had six children. She was tired at the age of 95 and went to sleep. My husband's father was head of the mash units in WWII and other wars. He died of cancer at the age of 88. I still have one relation alive. A 93 year old uncle I so want to see. He lives in Jacksonville and has been knighted by several countries. He holds titles that are passed to me. Sir Anthony and his wife, no children, live alone. I am a Countess. It does not mean much here , but in Malta is a high honor from a noble family. I suupport the ship of hope, or the Red Cross ship from Malta... but now I am very humbled by what this has done to our family. I have been in and seen so many wars. But, the reaction of the lack of help from corp. America is so very sad. Bank of America, my only credit card, will cancel because they are concerned that I may not be able to pay. SHOCK!

Thank you for letting me write this. Let me know if you need a disabled problem solver that is still learning the computer systems of the world.

Peace be with you... Countess Tula V. Tisa/USA Mrs. Leo P. Tisa/ Sir Leo of Malta

please honor your workers here... ty  Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.167.232.253 (talk) 23:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

countess tula tisa of malta/ e mail.. countesstula@aol.com.. from letter sent before. which language do you need?  Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.167.232.253 (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Flint High Schooler's Incident

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I deleted the account of a group of Flint, Michigan teenagers who complained that they were rudely treated by staff at one hotel location. An article concerning the seventy plus history of a large hotel chain is not the place for attention given to a complaint that one staff member treated a group of teenagers staying at the hotel rudely. No matter how rude he might have been, it fails to rise to the level of noteworthy. In any case, any adult who has ever tried to stay at any hotel while a group of teens is staying there can probably empathize. Most customers would probably prefer teens be "thrown off the property." Just not noteworthy!69.69.227.144 (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Did you actually read the article? The students were specifically harassed and discriminated against because they were Black, and were called racist slurs. I'm restoring the section with additional sources. Grayfell (talk) 00:14, 19 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

It is not clear to me why this section was removed. if you look at the Denny's restaurant article there is a whole section discussing discrimination complaints. It seems inconsistent to remove this incident from this article.JeremiahJohnson (talk) 03:13, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Draft article

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Hello! On behalf of Choice Hotels, and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I've been working with the company to improve this Wikipedia article. I've saved a draft article here: User:Inkian Jason/Choice Hotels. I won't make any edits to the article directly, given my COI, and I'll stick to proposing improvements here for editors to consider and implement. I realize this is a lot to review, so rather than asking for someone to review the entire draft, I'll submit a series of requests for easier review.

I'd like to start by identifying some problems with the existing article. First, the "Founding and early years" subsection is unsourced in its entirety. There are also many unsourced claims in the "Growth and expansion" and "Recent developments" subsections, not to mention, the use of inappropriate sources such as Facebook and the official Choice Hotels and WoodSpring Hotels websites. Two press releases are also used as sources. I think all editors would agree these should be replaced with appropriate secondary coverage. Finally, I should note, the stray "Loyalty program" section, which has just one unsourced claim, should be integrated into the article's prose. I propose replacing this section with the "Corporate affairs" section I've drafted, which provides some insight into the company's structure, leadership, etc.

I'm seeking editors to review proposed changes and update the article on my behalf. I'll start with a request to update the first part of the "History" section (see below). Thanks in advance to any editors who are willing to review suggestions. Inkian Jason (talk) 18:24, 16 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

"Founding and early years"

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First off, I'd like to suggest improvements to the current article's "Founding and early years" subsection which, as mentioned above, is entirely unsourced. I propose replacing the existing text with what I've drafted here: User:Inkian_Jason/Choice_Hotels#Founding_and_early_history.

The proposed text offers readers a general overview of the company's founding and early history, using neutral wording and Wikipedia-appropriate sourcing. None of the claims are particularly controversial, and all are easily verifiable. If editors are okay with the suggested text, here's markup for updating the section:

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Again, thanks to editors who can assist with reviewing and implementing this request. Inkian Jason (talk) 18:24, 16 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for updating the article, WhisperToMe. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

"Growth and expansion"

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First, thanks to WhisperToMe for helping above. Since the "Founding and early history" section has been addressed, I'd like to move on to the article's next section, "Growth and expansion", which has a total of 6 paragraphs. Two of the paragraphs are entirely unsourced, and two additional paragraphs are partly unsourced. This entire subsection is sourced by only 2 references (one of which is used 4 times). I've tried to streamline the section by removing some content that is either unsourced or unnecessary. Also, the draft adds some content that it is really important to a better understanding of the history of the company, such as Manor Care's ownership of Choice Hotels in the 1990s. Additionally, this section has 4 images, resulting in "sandwiched" text, which should be avoided, per Wikipedia's manual of style.

I've worked to improve the section by reviewing existing sourcing and adding new sources as well. Please see my proposed replacement text here: User:Inkian_Jason/Choice_Hotels#Growth_and_expansion. This content gives readers a better overview, more relevant fact claims sourced by appropriate references, and displays just two images to avoid text sandwiching. I should note, I worked with Choice Hotels to upload these images to Wikimedia Commons.

I invite editors to review the suggested text and update the existing article appropriately. I've rendered the text and provided markup below:

Again, I'd like to think this is a pretty straightforward improvement to the currently poorly-sourced content, but I don't edit the main space directly, so I'm looking for editors to update the article on my behalf. @WhisperToMe: Would you be willing to review this proposed subsection as well?

Thank you for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:40, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Inkian Jason: I went ahead and looked through the revision. Do you have a copy of the Washington Post article that was cited re: the hotel branding differentiation being the first? I couldn't find it publicly available online WhisperToMe (talk) 17:14, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@WhisperToMe: Yes, see this link, and I've updated the draft with this URL. Thank you for reviewing. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:24, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Inkian Jason: Thanks for the info! Do you also have "Quality Inns planning 3 classes of motels" available? You can e-mail it to me if you want WhisperToMe (talk) 18:03, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@WhisperToMe: I just sent an email with the article's text. I hope this helps. Inkian Jason (talk) 18:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Inkian Jason: Thanks! Re: "In 2008, Choice Hotels was the first industry chain" - is this the first chain worldwide, or just in the US? Would you mind e-mailing me that source article too? WhisperToMe (talk) 20:14, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@WhisperToMe: Thanks for updating the article. The source doesn't specify, so I would assume world. Similarly, this source also talks about Ascend being the first soft brand, and doesn't list any other international companies doing it first. I don't think the "[where?]" tag is necessary if sourcing cannot clarify, but of course, you and other editors have the ultimate say. I will email you the text of the Washington Times article, per your request. Inkian Jason (talk) 20:32, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Help with inline citation

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@WhisperToMe: Sorry, seems the definition of the "Grant18" reference got lost somewhere along the way. Are you able to add the source info?

  • <ref name="Grant18">{{cite news |title=Choice Hotels Signs Deal in Savannah |last1=Grant |first1=Peter |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/choice-hotels-signs-deal-in-savannah-1519167596 |newspaper=[[The Wall Street Journal]] |date=February 20, 2018 |accessdate=May 28, 2018}}</ref>

Thanks, Inkian Jason (talk) 20:54, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

User:Chetsford fixed with this edit. Thank you. Inkian Jason (talk) 20:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

"Recent history"

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Thanks again to User:WhisperToMe for helping above. The "where?" tag and "Grant18" reference still need to be addressed, but I'd like to go ahead and post a request for the article's next section, "Recent developments", which has 6 short paragraphs.

First, I propose renaming this section to "Recent history"; especially in an article about the hospitality industry, "developments" can imply construction sites and/or property development, so "history" seems more appropriate and encompassing. The proposed content for this section includes mention of the headquarters relocation, so I propose removing the current "Headquarters relocation" section, which is not needed or enough content to justify a standalone section.

Regarding the quality of the current section: the first 1st and 3rd paragraphs are entirely unsourced. The 2nd and 6th paragraphs are sourced by company websites. The 3rd paragraph is half unsourced, and the lone inline citation directs readers to a page that says, "404 PAGE NOT FOUND..." Reference #12 displays a Facebook URL. To summarize, sourcing is significantly subpar, so I've drafted a new version with appropriate sources. Additionally, the proposed draft removes some of the more trivial detail, such as the CEO's appearance on Undercover Boss. I removed mention of Bainum Sr.'s death, added mention of the company's new headquarters, included several documented hotel "firsts", and added information on the WoodSpring Suites acquisition and international expansion.

Finally, like the section above, this section also has "sandwiched" text, which should be avoided, per Wikipedia's manual of style. The draft page has 2 stacked images, which I uploaded to Wikimedia Commons on behalf of Choice Hotels. The images illustrate the Comfort and WoodSpring Suites brands, both of which are mentioned in the section's prose. Currently, the section has images for Quality Inn and Sleep Inn, which are not mentioned in the section's prose.

Please see my proposed replacement content here, which provides a better overview and more relevant facts about the company: User:Inkian_Jason/Choice_Hotels#Recent_history. I invite editors to review the suggested text and update the existing article appropriately.

I've rendered the text and provided markup below:

@WhisperToMe: I try not to ask too much of individual editors, so if you've reached your review limit here, please let me know and I'll try to find another WikiProject Hotels participant to assist. You've been such a tremendous help so far, and I know you work on other hotel-related articles, so I wanted to bring this request to your attention as well. Thanks in advance for any feedback or help. Inkian Jason (talk) 21:14, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@WhisperToMe: Thank you for reviewing and implementing this section. I did notice a stray "</nowiki>" after inline citations 29/30, plus an additional blank line, if you don't mind removing these. I have just a couple other minor requests at the bottom of this page. Thanks again! Inkian Jason (talk) 21:01, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@WhisperToMe: Thanks for removing the extra line. I see the "</nowiki>" tag remains. Inkian Jason (talk) 21:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Resolved. Regards. Lordtobi () 08:23, 7 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for your help. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:06, 7 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

"Corporate affairs"

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@Chetsford: Thank you for assisting with the "Brands" section. I've been submitting requests to improve this article section by section. I'm still hoping User:WhisperToMe will return to assist with the "Recent developments" section, but I was wondering if you might be willing to help with the next section?

Skipping over the "Headquarters relocation" section, which I hope to fold into the "Recent history" section, I'm now focused on the current article's "Notable hotels and partnerships" section. First, this section title doesn't really make sense because there are no mentions of notable hotels. Describing the company's partnerships seems appropriate, but the current content seems overly detailed about program points, and may even be considered promotional.

I propose replacing the current "Notable hotels and partnerships" and "Loyalty program" sections with the "Corporate affairs" section I've drafted here. The "Loyalty program" section has just one unsourced sentence. The proposed "Corporate affairs" section provides a better snapshot and is similar to other corporate overviews on Wikipedia. The draft section includes mention of the New York Stock Exchange, headquarters and technology campus locations, number of employees, executive leadership, relief projects, Corporate Equality Index score, and select sustainability initiatives. Furthermore, there's a subsection dedicated to the Bluegreen Vacations partnership, with wording less focused on points. The subsection heading may or may not be necessary, but I'd like to think Wikipedia editors would consider the "Corporate affairs" section a vast improvement over the existing over the existing "Notable hotels and partnerships" and "Loyalty program" sections.

I'm looking for an editor to review the proposed section and update the article appropriately. Might you be willing to take a look? After this request (not counting the aforementioned "Recent history"), only the infobox and introduction remain to be updated. If you're not interested, that's not a problem, and I will try to find a WikiProject Hotel member who can assist. If the proposed text seems appropriate, following is markup for updating the article:

Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

 Done - The proposal provided more information and had better sourcing than the original version, so I've implemented it. Chetsford (talk) 21:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Chetsford: Thank you for your help. Part of this request was to remove the unsourced "Loyalty program" section: Choice_Hotels#Loyalty_program. Do you agree, this is an unnecessary section?
Also, sorry to ask for more help (you can say no) but I am still looking for an editor to help with the above edit request. User:WhisperToMe thoroughly reviewed the first 2 sections of the "History" section, but has not returned to help here. Might you be able to take a peek? I think you'll find the request is a fairly straightforward improvement as well. Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 21:32, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
I think I got it but LMK if I missed something. Chetsford (talk) 22:16, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Chetsford: Thanks. Perhaps you're making a subsequent edit now, but I was proposing deleting the "Recent developments" section and replacing with the "Recent history" section, for the reasons mentioned here. In other words, I'm now looking to have the "Recent developments" section removed. I'm also hoping to remove the "where?" tag (see last comments in this above section, since User:WhisperToMe has not returned to respond), and to add Nordic Choice Hotels as a "See also" link, per User:Inkian_Jason/Choice_Hotels#See_also. This article is related to Choice Hotels, but not currently mentioned in the article's prose. With these edits, all that remains is my request to improve the article's infobox and introduction, which I will be submitting soon. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 22:24, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
OK, I think I understand. LMK if I got it right this time. Chetsford (talk) 03:50, 29 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Chetsford: I think you copied over the "Corporate affairs" section again (so now there are 2). I'm hoping to have User:Inkian_Jason/Choice_Hotels#Recent_history replace the first "Corporate affairs" section as well as the "Headquarters relocation" section. User:Inkian Jason/Choice Hotels shows what I have in mind. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:50, 29 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Also, the unsourced "Loyalty program" section is back, which you removed once before. Do you mind replacing the "Loyalty program" section with a "See also" section with Nordic Choice Hotels? This is also seen in my draft page. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:05, 29 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Sorry - thanks for the catch! Removed the duplicate. LMK if I missed anything. Chetsford (talk) 09:17, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Chetsford: Thank you for removing the duplicate section. In my request above, I was actually hoping someone would review and add the "Recent history" section, seen in my draft, as the third and final subsection of the "History" section. Since the headquarters relocation is mentioned in this subsection, there's no reason to keep the "Headquarters relocation" section, which I propose removing. I am sorry if my requests have been confusing. Might you be able to take a look? Also, I'm hoping to have the currently unsourced "Loyalty program" section replaced with the "See also" section with Nordic Choice Hotels displayed as a link, since this is related to Choice Hotels but not mentioned in the article's prose. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:00, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and introduction

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While I'm still looking to have the "Recent history" and "See also" sections added, I'd like to submit a final request for improving this article, this time addressing the infobox and introduction. My proposed infobox and lead can be seen here, and I'll outline changes below:

Infobox
  • The proposed infobox provides a source for the number of locations
  • The proposed infobox provides the name of the chief financial officer
  • The proposed infobox replaces the Products field with "Hotels and resorts" with the Brands field
  • The proposed infobox provides sources for the Revenue, Net income, and Number of employees fields

Following is markup for the updated infobox:

Introduction
  • The proposed introduction calls the company a hospitality franchisor rather than a hospitality holding corporation
  • The proposed introduction has an more complete list of hotel brands, based on the "Brands" section
  • The proposed introduction has updated figures for the number of properties and rooms

Following is markup for the proposed introduction:

Again, you can view the proposed infobox and introduction in the context of the full draft here: User:Inkian Jason/Choice Hotels. @Chetsford and WhisperToMe: I am pinging both of you since you helped with previous requests for this article, in case you're available to help out again.

Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 18:46, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Inkian Jason: Got those two in. Sorry... I had been busy with Asian Month stuff, but now I can approve some of the changes here WhisperToMe (talk) 19:46, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@WhisperToMe: Thanks for your assistance, and no need to apologize. I believe the only changes left at this time are: 1) addition of the proposed "Recent history" (along with removal of the "Headquarters relocation" section), and 2) replacement of the unsourced "Loyal program" section with the proposed "See also" section. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 19:48, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@WhisperToMe: Oh! I almost forgot, I'm also thinking there is not a need to have both Category:Companies based in Maryland and Category:Companies based in Rockville, Maryland, since the latter is a subcategory of the former. I suggest removing Category:Companies based in Maryland. Also, do you think the travel image brochure seen here is worth adding to the early history section? Thanks again for your help here. Inkian Jason (talk) 19:53, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Inkian Jason: Did that, and also added a companies based in Silver Spring cat to reflect how it was previously there. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:14, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@WhisperToMe: Thank you, that makes sense. In addition to my requests above about replacing the "Loyalty program" section with the propose "See also" section and the travel brochure image, I was wondering if you could change "did not meet the Choice Hotels's new standards" to "did not meet Choice Hotels' new standards" in the "Recent history" section? Inkian Jason (talk) 21:18, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
This sentence was corrected with this edit. Thanks to all editors who helped review the proposed draft. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 21 April 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 15:59, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Reply



Choice Hotels InternationalChoice HotelsWP:COMMONNAME. Google gives me 665M results for "choice hotels" vs. 336M for "choice hotels international", and even the company's main home page uses the branding "Choice Hotels" in the title and logo. -happy5214 12:57, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Radisson

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there are 2 Radissons. Choice is buying Radisson of the Americas. 204.48.79.66 (talk) 04:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Very nice article.

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Very valuable article with useful content. Thanks Gicarke (talk) 00:27, 5 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Suggested Update

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At the end of "recent history", the article discusses the attempted purchase of Wyndham Hotels & Resorts by Choice Hotels. According to Reuters[1], they later abandon this plan. It might be worth adding this in (I'm not, because of COI). Also, the date in the heading "Recent History" could be changed from (2012-2023) to (2012-present). Wikisschrift (talk) 21:24, 16 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

  1. Jain, Aishwarya; Oladipo, Doyinsola; Sen, Anirban (March 11, 2024). "Choice Hotels abandons roughly $7 billion takeover bid for Wyndham". Reuters. Retrieved December 15, 2025.