Talk:Child of the Sun

Merger proposal

I propose merging Sharp Family Tourism and Education Center into this article. This article already contains a section on that particular building, and it's not clear to me why that building, of all the buildings in this collection, needs a dedicated page.

@Candleabracadabra, Jllm06, and FSCFLW: Pinging you as a past editors of the article proposed for merger. Brian Hamilton (talk) 07:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm withdrawing this proposal on the advice of @Marykeiran, since the Frank Lloyd Wright pages have been organized to keep posthumously constructed buildings separate. Instead, I'll work to clarify the relationship of this building to the rest of the Child of the Sun project within the existing pages. Brian Hamilton (talk) 20:05, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Beta Beta Beta (talk) 19:10, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

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Pfeiffer Chapel at the Florida Southern College campus

• ... that Frank Lloyd Wright used urine in the construction of a college campus (one building pictured)? Source: Sherman, Chris (April 5, 2009). "Legacy Gives Lakeland Shapes". Tampa Bay Times. p. 102
  • ALT1: ... that urine was used to age copper during the construction of the Florida Southern College campus (one building pictured)? Source: Sherman, Chris (April 5, 2009). "Legacy Gives Lakeland Shapes". Tampa Bay Times. p. 102
  • ALT1b: ...that Frank Lloyd Wright incorporated student urine into the Child of the Sun university design project?
  • ALT2: ... that Florida Southern College students helped build their campus (one building pictured) in exchange for having some tuition fees waived? Source: "Florida Southern College Emerges from Earth to Sun". The News. April 28, 1957. p. 57.
  • ALT3: ... that the Florida Southern College campus (one building pictured), designed in part by Frank Lloyd Wright, has cat dormitories inspired by Wright's work? Source: Pera, Eric (February 9, 2013). "Florida Southern's College's Stray Cats Getting Own Frank Lloyd Wright Styled Dorms". The Ledger.
  • ALT4: ... that Frank Lloyd Wright, who designed part of the Florida Southern College campus (pictured), called its existing buildings "boxes with holes in them" and wanted them torn down? Source: Hubbard Burns, Diane (April 2, 1989). "Lakeland Campus Is Memorial to a Little Boy". Orlando Sentinel. p. G1; Groer, Anne (March 19, 1995). ". . . And Frank Lloyd Wright Fans, In Lakeland". The Washington Post. p. E1.
  • ALT5: ... that the tower of a chapel at the Florida Southern College campus (pictured) has been called "God's bicycle rack"? Source: Stevens, Elisabeth (April 8, 1979). "Frank Lloyd Wright's 'Child of the Sun'". The Baltimore Sun. pp. D1, D6.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Everything I Need I Get from You: How Fangirls Created the Internet as We Know It
  • Comment: Second QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Mount Bonaparte Lookout

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 834 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 16:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - ?

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article had a huge expansion, well over 5x, on September 8 and then was nominated two days later. Two QPQs complete. The article is neutrally written and fully cited. The image was taken by an editor who released it under CC-by-SA 2.5, so it's good to use. It's clear & in the article. In terms of hooks: ALT0, ALT1, and ALT1b are by far the most interesting; the hook fact appears in the article. I checked both Tampa Bay and Corpus Christi newspaper clippings, and both specifically talk about this copper-aging "technique". I've gone ahead and crossed out the other hooks above. @Epicgenius: I'm ready to approve those hooks, but I think maybe the fact in the article needs to be clarified just a little? Specifically, the wording in the article almost sounds as if Wright himself collected the urine to age the copper; it says: "Wright also used students' urine to age the copper." Compare to the Corpus Christi Caller-Times, which says the students were "urged to urinate on the copper to speed its oxidation" Just a slight revision in the article to clarify? What do you think? — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 14:34, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Chao Garden: Thanks for the review. Regarding the use of urine, the sources actually disagree on how it was used. This source (p. 27) says that he "collected" the students' urine, which is why I didn't say that he urged students to urinate on the roofs. (Also, are ALT3-ALT6 ALT2-ALT5 unsuitable or just not preferred? If the latter, then they don't need to be struck necessarily.) Epicgenius (talk) 14:46, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: I removed the strikethroughs for the hooks above; there's nothing wrong with them. Given the wording in the Powell article, I almost wonder if there shouldn't be a footnote in the article to briefly explain how sources disagree, or am I overthinking this? I mean, there's just such a big difference between the scenarios we are talking about here. What do you think? — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:26, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Chao Garden: Sounds fair. I've added a footnote to the article explaining this. Epicgenius (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! Approving ALT0, ALT1, and ALT1b because they are the most shocking. But, I'm not opposed to the other hooks (especially the cat dormitory hook, ALT3), if the promoter prefers. Those other hooks are also cited & used in the article. — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 16:05, 19 September 2026 (UTC)