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Latest comment: 18 hours ago by JuniperHollow in topic Request to update History section

Recent edits

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Here's an explanation for my recent edits: MOS:INTRO says that the lead should summarize the sections in the body of the article, so everything in the lead needs to be in the body somewhere. I also revised the wording to sound less promotional, removed non-noteworthy trivial details (e.g., hwy sponsorship with only local coverage; see WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:GNG), and non-independent sources (like trade magazines and press releases). I'm happy to explain more if anyone has specific questions. PermStrump(talk) 00:13, 16 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Promotional content

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User:ChrisCourtney and User:JonHansen3 - Wikipedia is not "social media" and not a vehicle for promotion, per WP:NOT which is what defines the mission of Wikipedia (and what is not the mission).

The content added by Chris here violated the WP:PROMO policy, the WP:VERIFY policy, and the WP:NPOV policy, and didn't follow the WP:MOS, Wikipedia's manual of style.

The content you restored together here has the same issues. Jytdog (talk) 18:32, 29 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Noticed edits of a similar nature from User:Macrandall3 recently, which significantly decreased the overall quality of the article. --Elephanthunter (talk) 01:58, 2 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Edit request

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This line is incorrect in terms of how the business operates:

"The company delivers cars to customers for $200, or customers can also pick up their purchased vehicle from one of the company's car vending machines."


The requested change is to the following:

"The company delivers cars to customers anywhere in the contiguous United States, and offers free delivery for individuals living within 100 miles of a Carvana market[1]. Customers can also pick up their purchased vehicle from one of the company's car vending machines, with locations in Atlanta[2], Austin[3], Houston[4], Nashville[5], and San Antonio.[6]"

And the sources are as follows:
[1] - http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2016/11/16/carvana-launches-in-10th-new-market-this-year.html (Ringle, Hayley)
[2] - http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2013/12/02/carvana-opens-used-car-vending-machine-in-atlanta.html (Gastelu, Gary)
[3] - http://fortune.com/2017/02/07/carvana-vending-machine-austin/ (Korosec, Kristen)
[4] - http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2016/12/14/houstons-first-car-vending-machine-officially.html (Martin, Joe)
[5] - http://www.popsci.com/new-automated-car-vending-machine-opens-in-nashville (Kratochwill, Lindsey)
[6] - http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/carvana-launches-automated-car-vending-machine-in-texas/ (Hard, Andrew)

JonHansen3 (talk) 18:55, 30 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Requesting a response for all 3 of these requests? I am confused at what is being asked here. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 23:50, 9 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
 Done; I've also incorporated a bit of one of your other requests into the sentence. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 23:59, 16 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 2

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Can we add something about the 23 markets that Carvana operates in?

Example:

As of March 2017, Carvana is active in 23 markets including Atlanta, Austin, Birmingham, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dallas, Hampton Roads, Houston, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Memphis, Miami, Nashville, Orlando, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Raleigh, Richmond, San Antonio, Tampa, and Washington, D.C.. [1] [2]


Source for 22 out of 23 Markets:
[1] http://www.crainscleveland.com/print/article/20161207/NEWS/161209848/online-used-car-dealer-carvana-launches-service-in-cleveland (Suttell, Scott)

    "To date, Carvana has delivered cars to customers in 47 states. Carvana now offers free, as-soon-as next-day delivery to residents in 22 markets: Atlanta, Austin, Birmingham, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dallas, Houston, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Memphis, Miami, Nashville, Orlando, Pittsburgh, Raleigh, Richmond, San Antonio, Tampa, Washington D.C., and now Hampton Roads."


Source for Philadelphia (23/23 markets)
[2] http://www.philly.com/philly/business/retail/Carvana-Drives-Into-Philly.html (Parmley, Suzette)

Hi @JonHansen3! I have a question about this edit request in particular, though I will still make the other 2 requests. Have there been any updates to the number of markets served by your company since this request was made? I would like to know before fulfilling this request.
For now, though, I have implemented only the part about the 23 locations. Please ping me if anything changes. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 3

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The technology section doesn't read very clearly, and we were wondering if it could be looked into. We have attached copy that we think would be better without any major changes to what is being said.

First Paragraph:

Old:

In November 2013, Carvana opened a three bay "car vending machine" in Atlanta, Georgia that allowed people to pick up a car they had bought online, or to buy one of the cars without dealing with a sales person.[1] and in 2015, the company opened an automated version of its car vending machine in Nashville, Tennessee -- a five-story glass tower that holds 20 cars at a time.[2][3][3][4]


New:

In November 2013, Carvana opened a three-bay car vending machine in Atlanta, Georgia that allowed people to pick up a car they had bought online, and in 2015, the company opened an automated version of its car vending machine in Nashville, Tennessee -- a five-story glass tower that holds 20 cars at a time.[2][3][3][5]




Second Paragraph:

Old:

After buying a car online, customers who chose to pick up their car from a car vending machine location by finding their transaction into a kiosk at the site or by inserting a special coin into a receptacle at the site.[2][6]


New:

After buying a car online, customers can choose to pick up their car from a car vending machine. When they arrive at the car vending machine, customers are given a special coin which they insert into a receptacle at the site that initiates the vending process and delivers their car to one of the delivery bays.[2][7]


JonHansen3 (talk) 19:23, 30 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

I have implemented the first part of this request. The second part just seemed more complicated than what was already there. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 23:57, 16 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. Gastelu, Gary (2 Dec 2013), News Carvana opens used car vending machine in Atlanta, retrieved 15 Apr 2016 {{citation}}: Check |url= value (help)
  2. 1 2 3 4 Cite error: The named reference griffin was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. 1 2 3 4 Jaynes, Nick. Nov 2015 "There's a five-story vending machine dispensing used cars in Nashville". Retrieved 15 Apr 2016. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  4. O'Kane, Sean (12 Nov 2015). Verge "A five-story vending machine for cars just opened in Nashville". The Verge. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  5. O'Kane, Sean (12 Nov 2015). Verge "A five-story vending machine for cars just opened in Nashville". The Verge. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  6. Guff, Samantha (16 Nov 2015). Post "Giant Car Vending Machine Serves Up Hot New Wheels". {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  7. Guff, Samantha (16 Nov 2015). Post "Giant Car Vending Machine Serves Up Hot New Wheels". {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
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"Team members"

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In the intro to the article, it says that "Carvana employs close to 20,000 team members." is 'team member' a synonym for employees? The language seems a little weird.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Vapblack (talkcontribs) 11:43, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Vapblack: I've removed the information. It's marketing-speak from a press release, and not really appropriate for Wikipedia. --Elephanthunter (talk) 02:29, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Last sentence in intro paragraph not appropriate for article.

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Carvana Co. is an online used car retailer based in Tempe, Arizona. The company was the fastest growing online used car dealer in the United States and is known for its multi-story glass tower car vending machines. Carvana was named to the 2021 Fortune 500 list, one of the youngest companies to be added to the list. Carvana's employee resource group, BEACON (Black Employees and Allies at Carvana), focuses on increasing connections and being champions of change and support its black employees, customers and community.

How is Carvana's beacon program relevant for this article? reads like filler, or promotion. I'm removing it. vap (talk) 11:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Report from Hindenburg Research

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Please see a research report from short seller Hindenburg Research. I've just skimmed the report and don't have time to write it up here, but it should be quite important. I'm a fan of Hindenburg's work, but wouldn't say that I have a WP:COI. You might see my article on The Signpost, The "largest con in corporate history"? to see why I'm an HR fan, or to judge my (possible) COI. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Request to Review and Revise Hindenburg Research Subsection for Policy Compliance (COI Disclosure)

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Hello, I have a COI as a Carvana employee and will not edit the article directly. I would like to request a review of the subsection on the 2025 Hindenburg Research report, as several parts appear to conflict with WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:UNDUE, and WP:BLP.

Hindenburg is a short-seller and therefore a non-independent, financially interested source. Per WP:BIASED and WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV, allegations from such sources should be carefully attributed and supported by independent secondary reporting. Several statements in the subsection are paraphrased in Wikipedia’s voice, and one quote (“former director…Fight Club”) comes from an unnamed source appearing only in Hindenburg’s report, which does not meet WP:RS for contentious material.

The subsection also gives disproportionate weight to a single non-independent source, exceeding the prominence it receives in independent media and creating a WP:UNDUE balance issue. In addition, the section relies heavily on the report itself rather than independent coverage, contrary to WP:PRIMARY and WP:SECONDARY.

Independent outlets also reported Carvana’s response to the report, which is currently missing and required for WP:NPOV. For example:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-02/carvana-short-seller-report-from-hindenburg-claims-accounting-grift

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-06/carvana-extends-loan-sale-deal-with-ally-refuting-short-report

Analysts and financial institutions also issued responses that are absent from the subsection:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/carvana-gets-its-first-upgrade-since-hindenburg-short-selling-report-575d1e02

https://www.investopedia.com/jpmorgan-sticks-with-outperform-call-on-carvana-despite-short-seller-report-8768692

Suggested framing:

“Following the release of the January 2025 report, several financial analysts responded with more positive assessments. JPMorgan maintained an overweight rating on Carvana shares and stated that its own research did not find evidence of inflated financial figures, and RBC Capital Markets upgraded the stock to outperform, viewing the market reaction as a buying opportunity. These responses noted continued demand strength and fundamentals in Carvana’s business model.”

These are independent secondary sources that meet WP:RS and provide significant viewpoints currently absent from the article. Including them would improve neutrality by presenting how major financial analysts evaluated the report and Carvana’s performance.

I am not requesting removal of the topic, only that it be aligned with Wikipedia’s sourcing and neutrality policies.

Thank you to any editor willing to review. JuniperHollow (talk) 19:32, 18 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Request to update the infobox

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Hello, I'm a Carvana employee posting edit requests on the company's behalf. This is a very brief one: Could the Products field of the infobox be updated to say "New and used cars"? The company moved into the new car market in 2025. If the claim needs a citation, I've appended one to the end of this sentence.[1]

References

Thanks, JuniperHollow (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Done Added and the reference is now in the history section Aloneinthewild (talk) 22:40, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I really appreciate the help, User:Aloneinthewild! I closed the old request above because I think I can put forward something more concrete—and easier for editors to review—in the near future. Thanks! JuniperHollow (talk) 18:46, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
No problem, thanks for explaining that. Aloneinthewild (talk) 21:08, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Request to create new Business model section

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Hello again, for my next request I'd like editors to consider adding a new Business model section to the article. It's something I've noticed is in a lot of other corporate Wiki articles. I've composed a draft that covers the basics of how Carvana's business works and what it offers to consumers, sourcing each claim from a mix of national, regional, and industry press outlets.

If anybody has feedback on the draft, just drop me a note below and I'll do my best to address your concerns. Thanks! JuniperHollow (talk) 20:36, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Red X symbol Declined The lead section may be brief, but online car retailer covers everything mentioned in the proposed text much more succinctly. The Carvana Wikipedia article doesnt need to reinvent the wheel when it comes to explaining to readers what services they offer their customers. Regards,  Spintendo  17:56, 28 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for reviewing this request, User:Spintendo. I obviously disagree your assessment. I think there are fine nuances to how Carvana operates and generates revenue that 1.) have been reported in reliable sources and 2.) are worth including in an encyclopedia article. Further, you link above to an article that describes franchise car dealerships. Carvana is, by contrast, a business that operates primarily online and offers delivery and pickup services not described in the linked article. The company buys and sells cars, but the model is pretty distinct from traditional car lots. With that said, I have a COI and I'm not a Wikipedia expert. I will defer to your experience and judgment.
If I could ask one question: do you think there's anything in this draft that would be worth including in one of the existing sections? For instance, same-day delivery is mentioned in the History. The sentence about that service reads: "In August 2023, Carvana introduced same-day delivery for customers purchasing or selling a vehicle, the service is currently available in Alabama, Arizona, Indiana, North Carolina, Georgia, Dallas-Fort Worth, and Central Florida." Would it be an improvement if that sentence read something like: "In 2023, Carvana started offering same-day delivery. As of 2026, this service is available in 20 states"?
Anyway, that's just a thought. Thanks again for taking the time. Cheers, JuniperHollow (talk) 17:08, 7 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Request to update History section

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Hello! I'd like to propose some revisions to the History. The section is solid overall, but going through it with a fine-toothed comb, I noticed that it's a bit disorganized and light on information about what the company has been up to over the past couple of years. So I've assembled a section draft, which does the following:

  • Adds subsection headers, for the sake of organization
  • Relocates a few existing claims, so that everything in the section proceeds chronologically
  • Revises a few existing claims, for clarity
  • Adds passages about the company's restructuring and return to profitability

I'll use the side-by-side comparison feature here, so that editors can easily see everything that my draft changes. Here is the side-by-side:

And here is what my draft looks like by itself:

I'm going to tag in User:Aloneinthewild, since they've demonstrated an interest in this article, but I welcome feedback from any and all independent editors. Thanks! JuniperHollow (talk) 16:27, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

I noticed that User:TonySt recently defended the article from vandalism, so I'm going to ask if they would like to review this request. JuniperHollow (talk) 23:45, 29 July 2026 (UTC)Reply