Talk:Candy Darling

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Encyclopedia entry

After watching the documentary: "Beautiful Darling", I was curious about the subject. Where is Darling's original name in the lede, infobox or article: James Lawrence Slattery? Maineartists (talk) 03:15, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia forbids publication of birth names of transsexuals. Seems weird to me, but that' the rules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Including_dead_names — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.70.86.190 (talk) 09:26, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk pages aren't "rules". MOS:GENDERID summarizes Wikipedia's current guidelines for writing about transgender individuals. —98.113.213.130 (talk) 02:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Well, the Christine Jorgensen bio includes her birth name, so it seems WP is not applying MOS:DEADNAME consistently. Muzilon (talk) 03:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Rollback

@Materialscientist: This was rolledback w/o explanation. Gonna assume only a misfire with Huggle – rather than misuse; as this edit actually fixes failed verification; and this one is nonsense (very likely ax-grinding to boot). If there's an issue with the infobox, it can be discussed. 2601:701:201:450:851C:11D3:7129:5609 (talk) 11:04, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Trans, transgender, or transsexual

This is the place for the slow-motion edit warring editors to have their conversation, not in the edit comments. Unless a discussion is had here and a consensus acheived, I will continue to revert changes to "transgender," as this is inclusive of "transseexual" and the subject is an icon of the broader transgender community, not just the transsexual subset, and full rather than abbreviated terms are preferred on Wikipedia. IP editors, take note please. Skyerise (talk) 19:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Since MOS:GIDINFO is silent on the issue and Candy never labelled herself, I'm deferring to the style guides for AP and GLAAD, both of which default to "transgender" unless requested by the individual. I've added an invisible comment in hopes of deterring future reversions. NuanceQueen (talk) 22:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Photo choice rationale?

Can someone explain to me why Candy is pictured on her death bed? Is it just because of the notable photographer?

There's no shortage of photos of her in life, and in my nearly two decades on this site, I think this is the only biography I've seen where the sole photo of the person profiled is them dying. -- Zanimum (talk) 14:38, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Actually, without going about reviewing the criteria for fair use images again, I think they're allowed primarily for the identification of the topic covered. Only about a fifth to a quarter of this photograph aides in the identification of Candy. -- Zanimum (talk) 14:42, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

One final comment, I see that the image is the cover of I Am a Bird Now. But given that the image was taken roughly three decades before the album was released, I'm a little doubtful that it's any "more" fair use than any other image. Why not the poster of Beautiful Darling (2010)?

Essentially, notability was from life, not death, so it's jarring that the photo is of her death. -- Zanimum (talk) 14:46, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

She wasn't dead in this, very much staged, photograph. The actual problem is that the photo is a copyrighted work of noted photographer, Peter Hujar. MaximZero (talk) 03:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Is there an alternative picture we can use? --DanielRigal (talk) 23:54, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

There are some in this archive, they all say copyright undetermined. Maybe an editor in the US might be best placed to contact them to ask? Some here also. Does anyone know more about US copyright law for images made by people now deceased? Or images over 50 years old? And what fair use covers. MikeLeighAtTheBBC (talk) 15:18, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Just speculation. There's nothing actionable here. The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Is there the possibility that her death could have been an early case of AIDS? As her body was cremated, and it's unlikely that samples were kept, we may never know for sure? PatGallacher (talk) 15:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

it is quite possible his death may have been an early case of AIDS, but no way of proving it - merely speculation; but not outside the realm of reason 2601:14E:8000:F780:84F1:28E:DE6B:C838 (talk) 18:48, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Misgendering is such crass behaviour, and emphasises personal ideology over factual content. ~2025-43635-39 (talk) 23:35, 28 December 2025 (UTC)