Talk:Caecilian

Uraeotyphlus Photograph

Hi Just to inform everybody that i've capturedon camera a relatively unknown and unstudied caecilian Uraeotyphlus Madeye found only in the Western Ghats of Goa, and named after the region in which it is found. will upload a picture soon as I've seen no pict of a caecilian on the net till date. -- Savio - Goa, India

Reptiles

The German Wikipedia Webpage states that caecilians are reptiles, which is contrary to the English Wikipedia definition. Don't the Wikipedia Websites of different tongues exchange information collaboratively?

I cannot see that the German article says anything about reptiles, nor was it recently vandalized and showed something clearly wrong like that temporarily. Caecilians are amphibians, both in English as well as in German. andy 22:07, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

The German article calls them "Lurche"=Amphibian, reptil= reptile []

I have found another problem with the site in the Navajo Language however. The Navajo language's version has the article in a very unusual format with a different font, and different, more colourful layout. I have noticed that some other Navajo wikipedia pages are in this format, but the format is made in a format that would never be allowed to be created in an English, German, Russian, German, Tagalog, Winaray or any other version written in the Latin Alphabet all follow the same format. Navajo is written in an extended latin alphabet (with diacratics and such) so it seems unreasonable to have the page in an entirely different format. []

Forgot to sign... my aplogies Brianc26 (talk) 02:43, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Recent discovery

The following section

"The hatchlings of certain East African oviparous species of caecilians have special teeth that allow them to peel and eat their mother's skin. The mother's skin in these species was found to be thicker than normal and contained a high level of fat and other nutrients. In addition to the skin, the newborns eat the rest of their mother's body as well."

seems to duplicate information mentioned under the reproduction section and the statement "the newborns eat the rest of their mother's body as well" doesn't make it clear under what circumstances this is the case. --80.6.85.54 23:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Simple Question

What do different caecilians eat? Termites and raw earth were suggested in one article (outside Wikipedia), but is that true of only that species, most species, or all species?

--75.84.114.219 16:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems a simple question, but actually the diet of caecilians in not known well yet. That German book listed in the references has such two pages about it (out of 150 pages in total). I'll write a short section about it to the article. andy 19:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How is the name pronounced? —Michael Z. 2007-07-10 17:33 Z

The confusion between the pronunciation of "Caecilian" and "Sicilian" was mentioned on Language Log: --Bkkbrad (talk) 16:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

In Latin this would be two hard c's, so the pronunciation I have always used and heard from academics is "kay-killy-un" or "kie-killy-un". However, as most people soften the Latin c in English (e.g. "Caesar" often being pronounced "see-za" rather than "kay-za"), it is acceptable to call them "see-silly-un". I can't understand why it would be pronounced like "sillicians" though, unless the speaker would pronounce "Julius Caesar" as "Julius Scissor" ~2026-39439-28 (talk) 18:10, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-39439-28 I learnt it as, and use, 'kai-killi-an' (with 'kai' as in 'eye', not '[tod]ay'). I learnt my Latin from the Cambridge Latin Course, which has the lead character Caecilius (pronounced 'Kai-killi-us') - MPF (talk) 22:54, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Clade

Here's a clade diagram from the German Wikipedia, sourced to papers cited here:

Gymnophiona	Rhinatrematidae Ichthyophiidae Uraeotyphlidae Scolecomorphidae Caeciliidae Typhlonectidae

{{clade|style=font-size:75%
  |label1= '''Gymnophiona''' 
  |1={{clade
   |1=[[Rhinatrematidae]]
   |2={{clade
     |1={{clade
       |1=[[Ichthyophiidae]]
       |2=[[Uraeotyphlidae]]
       }}
         |2={{clade
           |1=[[Scolecomorphidae]]
           |2={{clade
             |1=[[Caeciliidae]]
             |2=[[Typhlonectidae]]
             }}
           }}
       }}
     }}
  }}

—innotata (Talk • Contribs) 17:29, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

The Hindu article

Include this too: http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/kerala/article2571128.ece?homepage=true — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.28.56 (talk) 04:18, 26 October 2011‎

a couple issues

1. The taxoboxes of descendent taxa need updating. With the 10 family system, many genus and family taxoboxes need updating and congruence, especially the genera of Caeciliidae (now split into several families).
2. Where do the names on the phylogeny come from? especially "Stegokrotaphia" and "Teresomata"? I don't see either names mentioned in the sources cited, which are all molecular studies (hence excluding fossils).--Animalparty-- (talk) 21:31, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Caecilians may be venomous

Added discovery of dental glands in one species to the description. 2601:1C2:1900:23:8DDC:927E:B63A:806 (talk) 18:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)