Talk:Caccothryptus/GA1

GA review

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Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 23:31, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Esculenta (talk · contribs) 03:19, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I'll take this review. Will have comments here within a few days. Esculenta (talk) 03:19, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

• "The genus was first described by entomologist David Sharp" technically, a genus is not "first described", it is circumscribed. Since this is somewhat jargony, maybe consider adding "formally established (circumscribed)" to bridge the terminology gap. Also, I don't know how you feel about false titles, but this is an example of one (later on in the article too).
  • Thank you - tweaked wording to account for this and remove false titles. - G
• "Discoveries in the following years has have brought the total number of species up to at thirty-five."
  • Fixed. - G
• "the beetles have ovloid bodies" -> Likely meant to be 'ovoid' or 'obovoid'?
  • Fixed. - G
• the "synonyms_ref" parameter in the taxobox should have an entry to cite the listed synonym
  • Fixed. - G
• Not sure why "Range" is a subsection of "Description"
  • Seperated. - G
• aedaegus -> aedeagus
  • Corrected. - G
• this sentence is a bit dense "All Caccothryptus species have a non-articulated aedeagus, while their parameres can be either separated or fused—while this can vary even within a species group, all species of compactus and testudo have separated parameres."; the double use of "while" could be rephrased for flow
  • Fixed. - G
• possibly useful links: larvae, pupae, type species, synonym, denticle, sexual dimorphism
  • Added. - G
• "Within Limnichinae, Caccothryptus belongs to the "Mandersia group" of genera, alongside the much smaller" smaller how? # of species in genus, or body size?
  • Clarified. - G
• maybe have a gloss for jargon word pronotum (e.g. "the dorsal plate of the thorax") or similar
  • Added. - G
• very minor nitpick, but you could have the link to the protologue go directly to the correct page
  • Fixed. - g
• although Sharp did not specify an etymology, the roots of the name can be analyzed: Cacco- (κάκκος or κακός in Greek) means 'bad' or 'evil,' and -thryptus (θρυπτός, from Greek θρύπτω) means 'broken' or 'fragile.' These meanings could be included, with attribution.
  • -thryptus wasn't too hard, but I could also find definitions for "cacco-" that mean "fecal" ( see Donald J. Borror's Dictionary of Word Roots and Combining Forms, pp 19-20); so I'm unsure which one Sharp actually meant. - G
• "and are most often collected using light traps." I don't see this fact in the cited source
  • From checking its usage in other papers, "Collected at light" means "collected via a light trap" - G
• (not GA) "In 1922 and 1923, Maurice Pic described a new genus" it might be useful for some readers to be able to access these citations, which are listed as sources in Hernando & Ribera (and the 1922 volume is available at BHL)
  • Added the 1922 volume. - G
• "In terms of species count, Caccothryptus is among the largest genre" italics & genre->genera
  • Fixed. - G
• if this were FAC, I'd complain about a genus article not having a full species list (by "full" I mean a list of species with authorities, year of publication, and maybe distribution; that way one can cite the protologue citations with the species, making it easier for readers to get info about a certain species, even if an article hasn't yet been written), but for GA it's good enough
  • I was considering that, but wouldn't that result in an excessively long table for the 35 entries? It might work better as a separate article (List of Caccothryptus species)

Though then again the base article is short enough it could definitely accomodate such a list. I guess I might add it when/if I take this to FAC. - G

• "The underside of the abdomens (ventrum) has deep depressions" plural/singular clash with "abdomens"/"ventrum"/"has"
  • Fixed. - G
• "have long ovipositors and gonocoxites (a structure…)" plural/singular
  • Fixed. - G
• "Caccothryptus species can be distinguished from most other genera in the Mandersia group due to their lack of oblique frontal sulci on their heads." oblique = jargon version of "slanted"
  • Reworded. - G
• "longitudinally-divided region" adverbs ending in -ly should not be hyphenated to the adjectives they modify
  • Fixed. -G
• "Caccothryptus species are mainly within the Indomalayan or Oriental biogeographic realm" Historically, "Oriental realm" was used in biogeography, but it has been largely replaced by "Indomalayan realm" in modern scientific literature and classifications (e.g., WWF and Udvardy’s biogeographic system)
  • Removed. -G
• "Many species are known from a single location, although some have been found across a wide swath of territory; most notably among these is C. maculosus, with a range that encompasses Mainland Southeast Asia plus Hainan, portions of Indonesia, and the Andaman Islands." subject/verb agreement issue
  • Fixed. - G
• Images: the single image used was extracted from a (CC BY 4.0) publication, so is fine.
• Spot checks: I performed spot checks on five of the sources, and other than the one instance noted above, didn't find issues with supporting content, or paraphrasing. All sources are academic & reliable.

Overall, the article is pretty close to GA, and the suggested changes are minor, so I'm placing this review on hold. Esculenta (talk) 16:34, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

@Esculenta: Okay! I think I got to everything. Thank you very much. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:06, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Ok, I made a few copyedits; please check. I noticed that there's a repeated mention of C. chayuensis in two of the species groups, so I'll leave that for you to fix while I promote this to GA. Cheers, 20:56, 13 March 2025 (UTC) Esculenta (talk) 20:56, 13 March 2025 (UTC)