Talk:CJTM

I am starting the discussion as to whether the page for "The Scope" article on Wikipedia meets the criteria for "notability" according to the criteria set at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability

"The Scope" is claimed to be an "internet radio station" associated with Ryerson University in Toronto.

It appears that even considering the one article in "The Ryersonian", a Ryerson University based student publication, "The Scope" has not received what could be reasonably described as "Significant coverage" in the local, national or international media. Even then "The Ryersonian" may not rise to the level of a "Reliable source" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources) given its association with Ryerson students who both serve on its writing staff and are active in financially supporting or being otherwise eligible to be involved with "The Scope". As such, the coverage in "The Ryersonian" may not be "independent of the subject". "The Ryersonian" may not be a "reputable media source" by Wikipedia definition.

Another source quoted, "Canadian University Press" article, appears to be a reprint of a piece written in "The Eyeopener", yet another Ryerson University student press publication that may not be considered a "reputable media source".

This goes into the idea of "Sources" and Wikipedia suggests that "Multiple sources are generally expected". Despite there being a list of six "references", Ryerson University press organs have discussed the existence of "The Scope" and only in the vaguest of terms.

"The Scope" is not notable "merely because it exists: The evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not a mere short-term interest...". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability) The article itself says that "The Scope" is a "...prospective terrestrial radio station and intends to apply for an AM license..." Surely "The Scope" can wait to publish its Wikipedia article when or if it achieves a government radio license and becomes viable. "The Scope" is only an "internet radio station" because it wishes to be granted an AM license. In fact, in any reasonable terms, "The Scope" can only be funded by Ryerson students in the future if it achieves a broadcast radio license, so failing that it may be only of, as Wikipedia describes, "short-term interest".

Even if "The Ryersonian" and "Eyeopener" articles are considered "reputable media source(s)", Wikipedia states: "...In particular, if reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having a biographical article on that individual..." I put forward that at present "The Scope" holds value only as in the "...context of a single event...", in other words-its creation.

Wikipedia states "...If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger topic or relevant list...".

"The Scope" article appears to be self-promotional and about an event or news report, and these do not support its inclusion in Wikipedia.

"The Scope" is an "internet radio station" that apparently has no program schedule or list of "radio" content. Perhaps it transmits notable programming, but there is no evidence of this despite any research I have done, including looking at "The Scope"'s own website. http://sourcecamp.net/thescope/ Even the organization itself does not promote its notability in "internet radio" programming.

For the above reasons I would recommend the deletion of this article from Wikipedia until "The Scope" rises to the level of notability.

Prawnsyscheme (talk) 14:41, 13 May 2013 (UTC)