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Latest comment: 13 days ago by Dclemens1971 in topic Massive fireplace at other spaces

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Beta Beta Beta (talk) 05:56, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Gutzon Borglum's studio at Borgland
Gutzon Borglum's studio at Borgland
  • ... that the sculptor of Mount Rushmore hosted Czechoslovak independence fighters on his Connecticut estate for training during World War I?
  • Source: "When the alliance was asked to locate a suitable training base and camp for Masaryk's troops, Voska thought of Borgland and its hundreds of acres... The purpose of the camp was more political than military, though the trained soldiers were sent to Europe and did fight.... The Czechoslovaks realized that their only chance of achieving independence lay with a sympathetic United States willing to fight for Czechslovakian independence at the peace table." Six Wars at a Time, pp. 168-170
    • ALT1: ... that the Connecticut studio of the sculptor of Mount Rushmore (pictured) later became the home of a syndicated cartoonist? Source: "Both residents have achieved international recognition for their work. Gutzon Borglum, the master sculptor who designed and carved Mount Rushmore, owned most of the land surrounding what is now Wire Mill Road in the early 1900s. Mort Walker, the creator of the 61-year-old "Beetle Bailey" comic strip, one of the longest running comics still drawn by its original creator, moved into Borglum's former studio 25 years ago." (The Stamford Advocate)
    • ALT2: ... that the Connecticut studio of the sculptor of Mount Rushmore (pictured) featured a massive stone fireplace that could hold logs of up to 10 feet (3.0 m) in length? Source: "He erected a large indoor studio with a giant stone fireplace in one corner that could fit eight- to 10-foot long logs, a feature that later became a fixture of all his workplaces, according to his biographers, Howard and Audrey Karl Shaff, of Darien. Nearby, Bolgrum constructed three large stone walls with arched entrance ways to form an outdoor studio. He and his wife lived in a farmhouse." (The Stamford Advocate)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1945 Zhijiang Surrender Ceremony and Template:Did you know nominations/Football manufacturing in Pakistan
    • Comment: Offering ALT0 as a potential option for the 4 July set (Borglum helped draft the Czechslovak Declaration of Independence, which was inspired by the U.S. Declaration, as noted in the article). Either ALT0, ALT1 or ALT2 would work for a non-special occasion.
Moved to mainspace by Dclemens1971 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 61 past nominations.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:12, 23 June 2026 (UTC).Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ALT0's source doesn't technically say he hosted them; page 168-169 says his wife did all the work and in fact the closest there is on page 168 says "Gutzon may not have even been aware of the situation until then". BTW on ALT0 verifiability: one can argue Czechoslovakia independence is technically not mentioned to be part of WW1, but WP:BLUESKY and all that. Will propose an ALT0a and ALT0b.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Should be reworded per WP:DYKMAJOR.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Moved to mainspace three days ago, prose size 5010 B. ALT1/2 are verified. Pic is PD-US since it was published in a 1924 newspaper article. Prefer ALT0a over ALT0b over ALT2 over ALT1, though I find it more of a weak July 4 option given how distant the connection is there compared to the others. I'm gonna propose hooks as per above:

@Dclemens1971: What do you think? ミラP@Miraclepine 16:16, 27 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

  • Thanks Miraclepine; I'm good with your alternatives to ALT0 with the modification of the piped link text to say "estate" instead of "studio" (Borgland was more than just a studio), and it looks like it will be unnecessary for the 4 July set since the other hooks filled it out. Will you also be approving ALT1 and ALT2 if promoters are interested in those? Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
That works and yes to ALT1/2! ミラP@Miraclepine 14:16, 29 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Massive fireplace at other spaces

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Dclemens1971, the current text "Borglum often used large fireplaces in his work spaces" implies that the large fireplace was part of an existing pattern. The source however is slightly different, saying it is "a feature that later became a fixture" (emphasis added). Is there background information I'm missing? Otherwise would a tweak to something like "Borglum went on to use large fireplaces in future work spaces." make sense? CMD (talk) 07:50, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Sure @Chipmunkdavis Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:25, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply