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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Cyberdog958 in topic Edit request on classification of Betar

“give Peter Beinart a pager”

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This might be worth mentioning:

In February 2025, Beitar USA publicly called for the murder of Peter Beinart. They wrote on Twitter: “We urge all Jews on the Upper West Side to give Peter Beinart a pager. He is a traitor, a kapo and we must oppose him,” referencing the near-simultaneous explosion of 3,000 to 4,000 pagers that Israel used to attack Hezbollah activists in Lebanon. Babel fish (talk) 23:22, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

We would need to have reliable sources which show that this information is due for inclusion. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 23:26, 4 February 2025 (UTC) Edited 01:46, 5 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
Also there's a recently created page for Betar US, this may belong better there. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 01:47, 5 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
Haaretz has it. Expect NYT soon. Zerotalk 03:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Zero0000: @Babel fish: During that Pager Campaign Betar gave Norman Finkelstein a pager. Put a paper in his jacket pocket and threatened him verbally. It was wrote in "Betar US"; and deleted by User:IOHANNVSVERVS :
"In 2025, Betar started the Pager Campaign by putting pagers in people’s pockets – targeting prominent personalities like diplomat and United Nations secretary-general António Guterres, Jewish writer Peter Beinart[1], and political scientist Norman Finkelstein – a move slammed as a death threat following Israel’s 2024 Lebanon electronic device attacks.[2][3]"

Cheers, --93.211.213.78 (talk) 13:34, 1 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done with some changes based off of cited sources (MEE video and first Haaretz paragraph, as I cannot access the full article). Added text:
In 2025, Betar US started what was dubbed the "Pager Campaign" following Israel’s 2024 Lebanon electronic device attacks, where members put pagers in the pockets of or thretened to give pagers to people they percieved as anti-Israel – targeting prominent personalities like United Nations secretary-general António Guterres, Jewish writer Peter Beinart, and Jewish political scientist Norman Finkelstein. Beinart characterized it as a death threat
also added to Betar US Mason7512 (talk) 19:42, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. "US Zionist charity issues 'death threat' for questioning Israel's 'right to exist'". Middle East Monitor. 2025-02-04.
  2. "Betar's "Pager Campaign" in the US". Middle East Eye. 2025-02-05. Retrieved 2025-02-10.
  3. "'He's a Traitor': Right-wing Group Targets Jewish American Author Over Israel Criticism". Haaretz. 2025-02-04.

Edit request 10 May 2025

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Description of suggested change: The source that "Betar was inspired by fascists" is completely biased, from a severely obscure source, and unfactual. Not only is the source inaccurate and misleading, but the Betar actually encouraged resistance from fascism. Diff:

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74.57.24.26 (talk) 02:07, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Mason7512 (talk) 19:08, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 13 May 2025

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Description of suggested change: Typo/Spelling error?

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In 2025, Betar US started what was dubbed the "Pager Campaign" following Israel’s 2024 Lebanon electronic device attacks, where members put pagers in the pockets of or '''thretened'''
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In 2025, Betar US started what was dubbed the "Pager Campaign" following Israel’s 2024 Lebanon electronic device attacks, where members put pagers in the pockets of or '''threatened'''

Aethernator (talk) 22:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done Thank you. Mason7512 (talk) 23:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on classification of Betar

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Hello,

I would like to request a clarification or update to the classification of the Betar movement in the lead section of the article. Currently, it is described solely as a “youth movement.” While historically Betar began as a youth movement, today it is composed primarily of adults and operates as a broader ideological and activist organization.

Suggested revision: Current:

“Betar (Hebrew: בית”ר) is a Revisionist Zionist youth movement founded in 1923…”

Proposed:

“Betar (Hebrew: בית”ר) is a Revisionist Zionist movement, originally founded as a youth organization in 1923, which today includes both youth and adults among its active membership.”

This change more accurately reflects Betar’s present-day composition and activities without disregarding its origins. Please let me know if sources are needed to support this clarification, and I would be happy to provide them.

Thank you 2601:C6:C381:11C0:14BF:3214:8BA6:79CB (talk) 00:44, 31 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Yes please, provide the source! Lova Falk (talk) 06:43, 31 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. cyberdog958Talk 05:24, 9 June 2025 (UTC)Reply