Talk:Benjamin Lany

Merge discussion

Is this Lany, Benjamin (1591–1675), bishop of Ely as per LanyDictionary of National Biography (subscription required)? If so, I believe the article title should be Benjamin Lany to follow the more RS source. I thus propose merging this article Benjamin Laney (bishop) to Benjamin Lany (bishop) --Senra (Talk) 17:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Moved to Benjamin Lany (no disambiguation required). Charles Matthews (talk) 05:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I see it has been moved already. Perhaps a little hasty? I still think Dictionary of National Biography is WP:RS. However the complexity here is that there are 14 article-space links to Benjamin Laney (bishop), a street, Bishop Laney's Drive in Ely (CB6 1BZ) named after him and also a registered UK charity Bishop Laney's charity registration number:311306. I am no expert on wikipedia DABs. In this instance, I am inclined to consider:

• Benjamin Laney (bishop) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) main page
• Benjamin Lany (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) redirect
• Bishop Laney (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) redirect; needed due charity name and street name

Can we debate with propose, comment or oppose before we move it again?

It can be moved again if there is good reason (the initial request wasn't well-formed, but it is perfectly sensible to have him at the name the ODNB uses). There is no particular need to change the instances where there is a piped link from Benjamin Laney (bishop). For figures from the 17th century, there is no "standard" name anyway: using a name not requiring extra disambiguation is also reasonable, and the theoretical guidelines would apply to do this:

• the dab page Benjamin Laney is not needed with just the two names;
• the current links to it all refer to the bishop, not Benjamin Travis Laney;
• all that needs to be done is to put hatnotes on Benjamin Travis Laney and Benjamin Lany, and to redirect Benjamin Laney to Benjamin Lany.

Then this is sorted according to the book.

Charles Matthews (talk) 12:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)