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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Kansas Bear in topic First European battle decided by cannons?

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in paragraph five there's the line 'When the leading French army lay siege to Castillon, Talbot abandoned his original plans ... and set out to relieve it' - but there's no indication of what those original plans were.

What does this sentence mean?

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He routed a similar sized force of French francs-archers (milicia) in the woods before the French encampment, giving his men a large boost of morale. It doesnt quite sound like English to me.--Filll (talk) 22:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

First European battle decided by cannons?

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Who claims that? Methinks cannons were the deciding factor already in many battles of the the Hussite Wars, some sieges in Russia, and the Ottoman sieges of Constantinople - especially the first in 1396. Rontombontom (talk) 21:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

No-one has replied to this comment for 14 years, but perhaps he's right. In fact, as of 2022 that section states "Castillon was the first major battle won through the extensive use of field artillery." (Note it doesn't restrict this statement to just Europe). That seems, surely, to be wildly inaccurate: the Chinese used field artillery extensively from the 14th century onward, and given the history of the time it would be surprising if some major battles hadn't been won by it. I think this sweeping statement about Castillon is a just another example of eurocentrism. Could someone with a knowledge of military history (I have zilch) fix this?@BobBadg (talk) 18:33, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I removed the questionable reference from the Lead, added sentence to the body of the article per WP:LEAD, ?Europeanized? the battle(though I seriously doubt anyone meant "in the world"), and added a reference. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:10, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Edited out "first" since Yale source does not explicitly state that. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:15, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply