Talk:Baron Mortimer

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I found that the predecessors of the 1st Earl of March at Wigmore Castle was described in WP as "Baron Wigmore", but they are ususally described as "Baron Mortimer", I have therefore renamed the articles. They might have eben referred to as "baron of Wigmore", but that is a reference to their status as marcher lords, not to a peerage in the modern sense. I considered it more satisfactory to combine all the Mortimer baronies on a single page, and have used this one, which formerly contained the reference to Simon Mortimer (whose basis I do not know, and have therefore left). I have also listed the feudal barons of Wigmore, several of whom have articles. The family genealogy in the 12th century is not certain, and I have adopted the solution given in Hopkinson and Speight, which appears to be the most commonly accepted today, but there have been other views. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Numbering

The Complete Peerage, 1st edition, Vol 5, P 379 shows Edmund Mortimer, 2nd Baron Mortimer as 1st baron, Roger Mortimer, 1st Earl of March as 2nd baron and Roger Mortimer, 2nd Earl of March as 3rd baron. This is on the basis that Roger Mortimer, 1st Baron Mortimer, who died in 1282, was not a baron in the peerage. I suggest that Wikipedia should follow this numbering, and that Roger Mortimer, 1st Baron Mortimer should be listed only as a feudal baron, unless there is another source. Does anyone have access to the 2nd edition of CP? Alekksandr (talk) 21:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)