Talk:Barga (tribe)

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Flag of Barga Mongols

I've recently stumbled upon a article about Manlaibaatar Damdinsüren, who is of Barga origin and there was said, that he gave some sort of his flag to Bogd Khan as a present. I found and vectorised this flag, but is it appropriate to add it to this article? Link to the article and the flag I can't show because I am new to Wikipedia and I don't know how to upload

Sebastian the Sundance (talk) 11:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Bayirku

@Nifushi, The sources cited include the Great Russian Encyclopedia as well as works by historians with academic degrees. These sources clearly fall under the criteria of WP:RS and WP:SCHOLAR. There is no WP:OR involved, as all quotations and sources are properly provided. Your removal of the Mongolic version, rather than my edits, is what violates the rules set out in WP:NPOV. KoizumiBS (talk) 09:38, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

User:Nifushi, please explain the particular reasoning behind your assertions that these additions were original research. Remsense 🌈 论 04:39, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Nifushi, According to WP:OR, "original research means material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published source exists." In this case, there is no WP:OR. In my case, I cited a tertiary source with a direct quotation — the Great Russian Encyclopedia — which clearly provides the names of authors and references to the literature. Nevertheless, you treated this as WP:OR. That is why I added the sources cited by the GRE directly into the article text. And now you accuse me of POV pushing, even though I did not remove the Turkic version — I only added the Mongolic hypothesis, which is likewise supported by reliable academic sources. Presenting both perspectives is precisely what WP:NPOV requires: reflecting the balance of views in scholarship rather than suppressing one side.

And you moved the text about the Mongolic hypothesis to the very end of the article, which closely resembles an example of WP:JDLI. KoizumiBS (talk) 06:44, 6 September 2025 (UTC)