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Change "They are a sub-caste of the Kanyakubja Brahmin while their origins are from Kannauj"

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"Bahuns were original inhabitants of Far Western and Karnali region of Nepal. The surnames of bahuns are taken from the western nepal's places names which shows bahuns are the original inhabitants of Western Nepal. Bahun is one of the caste in khas community and their origins are from the Western Himalayan belt of Nepal. As per many historians - The Khas bahun people are said to have migrated from their ancestral land(central asia) towards the Himalayan region of Nepal in ancient times. The modern day Khas include Chhetri, Bahun, Kami, Thakuri, Sarki, Sannyasi, Badi, Damai, Gaine and others."

Manasludamase (talk) 05:48, 28 July 2025 (UTC) ~2026-23340-57 (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

References

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. InfernoHues (talk) 03:40, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

I have provided many sources where its clearly mentioned bahun's origin from western nepal. Many sources which clearly says bahun are khas people. and khas people are not origin of india. Someone trying to modify our history which is not good at all. right now they mentioned bahun are from kannauj. we all are suprised to hear that because since the childhood we have been reading that we are khas and our origin are from western nepal. But here .... there is no any source which says bahun came from kannauj ...but there are 100s of books , 100s of sources which says bahun are from western nepal not and some sources says khas bahun xettri originated from iran. are the sources provided by me not reliable?? if a solid source needed then why they put "bahun are from india" in wikipedia without any solid proof? why is that? please let me know what else can i provide you so that it can be corrected. Manasludamase (talk) 01:17, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

Please click the link in my message above. Most of the sources you provided are not reliable. Source 2 and 9 are reliable, but don't say that Bahun's originated from Nepal. Source 2 for example specifically says that they migrated through the Sutlaj River, which isn't in Nepal. The source already in the article is from Oxford University Press and does say that they originated from India. InfernoHues (talk) 01:37, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

first of all its not about migration. at some point someone migrated from somewhere. it is believed that everyone migrated from somewhere. khas people believed to be migrated from central asia as 50 perecent of nepalese historians claims that and other 50 perecnt claims the western nepal origin. khas and kirat are oldest cizilaztion of nepal even in the mahabharat, khas and kirat mentioned. anyway lets talk about the facts:

1st source: clearly explains bahuns are from western nepal. Thier surnames are orginated from western nepal places and it is true because when you go to dailekh there are boards of bahun surname origins. you should know that.

2nd source:

a> It clearly says bahun are khas people and worship masto god. and khas peoples origin is from western nepal. and masto only worshipped in nepal not india. khas people include bahun xettri and some kami damai thakuri who worship masto.

b> look at the page 6 table which shows some of the bahun surnames and their origin place.

c> look at the page 7: the Khasha people are said to have migrated into this region possibly from Khasgar region of Western Tibet or Kashmir region of Pakistan. The archaeological remains and inscriptions found in Surkhet, Dailekh, Jajarkot, Jumla (Sinja) reveal that Karnali Province was the heart of the Khasha Kingdom.

d> as you mentioned through satluj river : Dorbahadur Bista says, Khas were migrated in around 3rd millennium in Nepal through Sutlaj River. thrrough satluj river not from satluj river. why you trying to modifying the facts. there are 100s of books by nepali historians and most of those books there are only 2 theories that is origin of western nepal and another theory is origin of central asia, present day iran.

3rd source: explains Masto is the kuldebta of khas people of himalayan that is bahun xettri and thakuri. and masto is the identity of khas people. masto is worshipped only by khas only in nepal. masto origin is from nepal. if bahun came from india there should have been bahun surnames in india too, there should have been masto god in india too.

4th source: It is the famous book "nepal ka khas jaati" by bipin adhikari which clearly says bahun Originating from modern day Central Asia, the Khas people are said to have migrated from central asia to himalayan.

5th: same as 2nd

6th: it is clearly mentioned that there is no tangible record or evidence supporting the theory of indian origin. Dr Adhikari has analysed plenty of references to prove his contention. Based on these references, he depicts the Khas and the Kirantis as two earliest tribes to settle in the Himalayan foothills. The epic Mahabharat is cited to show that the Khas and the Kirantis had participated in that war, fighting alongside the Kauravas. Please go read the books by nepalese historians.

7th: nothing about origin ..it discuss about other topics

8th: this article again explains bahuns origin of western nepal as their surnames are originated from west nepal

and why dont you consider a famous nepalese historian books as reliable sources?

in all the sources it says khas people includes bahun xettri kami dami thakuri and khas people are not originated from souther part of india like kannauj.

I can provide you the 100s of sources but you can not provide 2 reliable source. There is no any book by nepalese historians where they proofed that khas bahuns are kannauj origin.... madhesi brahmins are from kannuaj india or banaras india not nepalese khas bahun. khas bahun worship masto , jhakri dhami not indian bahuns. Manasludamase (talk) 14:04, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

You haven't given any "books by Nepalese historians." Source 9, which you provided, is by a Nepalese historian also says that they originated from India. As does Source 2, which you also provided. I think you should read what you provide more carefully. The other sources you gave aren't reliable, please see WP:RS for more information on why. InfernoHues (talk) 16:13, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

haha looks like you dont read carefully before writing anything. your first reply about satluj was not related at all ...you dont even know the difference between the word through and from

you said i havent mentioned the books

again a lie.

1> you said 2nd is the reliable source and i given you all the points from the 2nd source hahaha. Even 2nd source indicates khas migrated from central asia long long back. it also talks about bahun surname origin of western nepal. Read carefully instead of making your iwn imagination theories. by the way dolraj bista is also a historian.

2> you said i havent mentioned the book ...go read khas jati ko itihas, nepal ka khas jati book

3> my 4th source is from the nepali writer historian bipin adhikari who wrote the book called nepal ka khas jaati. its clearly mentioned there.

4> 6th source also spoken about bipin adhikaris books

Hey dont talk like uneducated. I am talking facts here ...mentioned each and every points ...you just doing time pass here. it is not a place to play game. here we talk about facts. in all the sources there is nothing like "kannauj"..

First look at my all points in the above comment and go read all the books ...may be you can buy them from the store and read hahaha then come and discuss with me...

wrong information should be corrected. we have been watching the edit history ...1 year back it was correct but people like you modified it just to spread hates.

again go read all the books sources and then only talk. Manasludamase (talk) 16:30, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

Bipin Adhikari is a lawyer, not a historian. Khas Jatiko Itihas is also not written by a historian. The 2nd source pretty clearly does not say that they originated from Central Asia. You haven't given any sources by Dolraj Bista. You also haven't said why the existing Oxford University Press source is wrong. InfernoHues (talk) 16:47, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

1> bipin adhikari is a writer too. he wrote a book with research. If anyone research on a history and write a book he is called histrian ....there is no certificate for historian like lawyers.

2> as per the wiki any books is a realiable source ...so the book from bipin sbhikari also a reliable source.

3> 2nd source mentioned about dolraj bista ...he wrote a book too about khas.

4> we believe in nepali books writtent by nepalese.

why you ignoring all the facts? why is that? there is not any sources where its says bahun came from kannauj. and which oxford unversity press article you talking about ? did they come to my place to research about khas culture , their god and origin ...no not at all... by the way

i have provided real facts ...you just ignoring all hahaah ...now lets talk about your 1 source hahaha and lets ignore so many reliable source of mine for a second .... please tell me where its mentioned about kannauj. i know where its mentioned.... in that article of yours ...its said - according to only one specific surname people of nepal , they claim they from kannauj ...i know which surname ....there are approx 400 surnames of bahuns in nepal. and approx 100s of xettri surname in nepal. all surname does not represent khas community. 90 perecent of bahun xettris are of khas community ... the surnames which match with the indian surnames like tiwari, tripathi, pathak , dixit xettri, tondon xettri etc are not khas ...as they do not worship masto ....

Please friend come with solid source like me. i am ready to discuss with you all the time but its sad when you ignore the reliable source and behave like kids just to forcefully win. Manasludamase (talk) 17:30, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

If anyone research on a history and write a book he is called histrian - Not true

as per the wiki any books is a realiable source - Not true, please actually read the link I sent

2nd source mentioned about dolraj bista ...he wrote a book too about khas. - You haven't told me which book this is

Here's the quote from the source cited in the article:

Historians have found that the Khas Arya roots in Nepal precede the founding of the Mughal empire (Adhikari 2004: 9; Whelpton 2005: 9–10; Shrestha 2001:75–76) and that migration accelerated after the Muslim invasions (Adhikari 1998). Dor Bahadur Bista, a leading Nepali anthropologist, notes that ‘Traditional accounts state that the Brahmins came to the western hills of Nepal from India for the first time during the fourteenth century when they were dislodged by the Moslem invasions’ (Bista 1996: 2). For instance, those with the surname Devkota (used only by hill Brahmins) are known as ‘Kanyakubja owing to their origin in Kanauj (India) and migrated to Nepal in the last days of the Mugal empire in India’ (Devkota 2016: 25; Sharma 2001: 75).

It's only giving an example of one surname, not saying that that's the only surname coming from India. It even says that Bista, which you mentioned, supports what the article already says. The author of that book is also Nepalese, if that matters to you. InfernoHues (talk) 17:42, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

I changed the wording of the lead somewhat, hopefully that makes the sources position more clear. InfernoHues (talk) 21:59, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

now we know who really modifying our history. its people like you offcourse. you even removed the line which sais himalayan belt of south asia. and added a line 14th century. There is no proof of that ...you should know that in the 14th and 15th century there are big popular bahun names already hahaha. There are 100s of source which says khas migrated from central asia and you ignoring and many sources clearly says they from west nepal...you ignoring those sources and you making your own personal theories based on assumption. We know ehat you trying to do ....we know it better. Manasludamase (talk) 02:08, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

Please find another source which says

"1. Kasharyan: originated in European, Caucasus zone around Caspian lake migrated toward east in Ice age, developed in Indus river civilization, Khas Mashto Pujak, spread from Karnali zone, "

Sinja and dullu history and prrofs:

Sinja is the origin of Khasha Civilization and Language. It is the winter and summer capital of Khasha Kingdom. Karnali is one of the old civilizations of Nepal and is connected with ancient Khasha (Malla) kingdom. Also known as Naga descendants (from Western Tibet), the Khasha people are said to have migrated into this region possibly from Khasgar region of Western Tibet or Kashmir region of Pakistan. The archaeological remains and inscriptions found in Surkhet, Dailekh, Jajarkot, Jumla (Sinja) reveal that Karnali Province was the heart of the Khasha Kingdom. Dullu and Sija were being the summer and winter palacial sites respectively.

and please again look at the table in this pdf.

Origin of Khasaryan people of Nepal

Its really hard to believe you are an editor because you are ignoring all the facts data and sources. You dont have to win with me just please dont ignore the facts. and by the way you written "janjati believes khas migrated ...same like that khas believes they migrated from bhot, tibbet region". so it happens in every country. Because of hates, you can not modify others history and origin.

The biggest proof we have is our masto god who we worship as our kuldebta. There is no region in this world where they worship masto god except Nepalese bahun, chettris and some thakuri and very few dalit. and about the books like "dol bahadurs bista". where he mentioned that bahun masto pujak does not perform dhami nach something like that ...we laugh on writers like that...please go to western nepal and watch the real masto traditions performed by bahuns xettris all together. so what i am saying is everyone making their own theories. at last we will have to accept their theories here in wiki . thats fine but we will have to see percentages ....if 90 percentage of theories says same thing then why you accepting 10 percent of theories written by others actually ...

Branch of kanyakubja brahmins hahaha where this theory came from? how many sources you can find of that kanyakubja hahaha actully no sources ...someone forcefully put that line ...

Please read the sources carefully first. Please get 5 minutes of time and read the source provided in the wiki about kanyakubja theory haaha...its about newari bahuns not khas bahuns. actually madheshi bahun are from kanyakubja as i read in many books anyway its not about madhesi bahun or newari bahuns. its about khas bahuns. its about khas people. 2 years back there was nothing like kanyakubja , india etc in the wiki but some bad editor who got the bad faith changed all the history of ours.

and how many sources you can find the central asia, iran theory..many....how many sources you can find about western nepal ..

Hope you will consider all the data, facts. Manasludamase (talk) 03:24, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

Once again, you have to actually link sources, you can't just say that they exist somewhere. Please also read WP:Reliable sources. The source you just linked is again not written by a historian. Even though it's not reliable, it still says "Khas-Aryan community in Nepal, were migrated by the force of Mughals in India in around 12th centuries." Everything else you said is WP:Original research. We can only write what the sources say, not from our personal experience.

I removed the line about Kanyakubja Brahmins because the sources cited didn't actually say that. InfernoHues (talk) 19:15, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

Sir Once again you mentioned only one line but did not see a lot of explanation about where they actually originated from and ...where they migrated from ... i think in this article central asia and iran mentioned lot of times and you ignored that but your mind wanna accept the fact like "through the satluj river" "not from the" and "india", "mugal" "14th century" "12th century".. you focusing on these words and ignoring other details on any of the articles. and you see dol bahadur bishta as a historian and you dont see other writers historians.... this article says 12th century hahaa, you modified 14th century ... wow everyone is playing with our history. first of all we all should know the differnce between origin and migration route. almost all the articles and books says we originated from central asia and came to himalayan region thousands of years back (no proof) that is kashmitr, himanchal uttrakhand nepal sikkim darjeeling .... we came through himalayan and settled in western nepal and lot of books says we are from western nepal and if we dont talk about the books ...if you talk to bahun people in the village ...if you ask their origin they will say their origin ...some says jumla, some says dailekh, some says bajhang ...80 perecnet of bahun indicates their origin from west nepal ... my grandfather said we came from bajhang ... our surnames originated from place names. for example: famous gotamkot of rukum is the origin of gautam, paudi bazar of bajhang is the origin of paudel etc....but you dont accept real things .... thats fine.

do you accept the video source of Jagman Gurung???

and why did you put the line "the traditional view is that they arrived from India during the fourteenth century"? and what about the maximum percentage of views of everyone who thinks they migrated from central asia through himalayan and what about the views of people who thinks they from western nepal.... if you go to western nepal they even have boards that this surname originated from this place.... you can not put your own view on this .... its the haters view of 12th century.... bahun xettri people thinks same about kirati people ....80 perecent of bahun xettri believes they came from bhot , tibbet and china and lots of articles says that too....thats why they called bhotey ....i am not racisist but you cant put this information on kirat page what i think about them.... we should respect ....

one more information you cant find in these books and articles because our historians dont do any research hahaha... just for knowledge you should know :

in the khas bahun xettri community

1> everyone has "kairan" , in west nepal we say "patti". what does it mean? this indicates their places. for example: pokherl has 2 - dudh pokhrel and pani pokhrel. basnet has 4 kairans Shreepali, Khapatari, Khulal, and Lamichhane Basnet. paudel has 3 kairan kalo , seto, damase. so everysurname has kairans. kairan indicate their places. "kun thau ko basnet ho? kun basnet ho? " i am khaptari basnet ...that means his origin from khaptar. i am damase paudel that means his origin is from damase. ask any old bahun and xettris about their kairan or patti. why we have kairans because when we marriage , if we have same kairan that means we from same place and we are daju bhai and we avoid that. note : kairan is not a gotra. kairan indicates place and gotra is something different ...

and why did you put 14th century thing? i suggest you to read "khas people" wiki page. please do not put wrong information ...do not put anyone's theories made by only few people. everyone has their own theories...and i suggest you to look into edit history of bahun page ... there was nothing like this 2 years back but some bad faith people did this .... Manasludamase (talk) 01:37, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

1. Don't assume people's genders.

2. I put 14th century because that's what the source says.

3. You can't say things without sources.

4. The views of reliable sources matter, not the views of the general population.

5. Written sources are preferred, videos are usually self-published.

6. You originally said to use Bista, and now are upset that he was used.

7. If you have reliable sources that say other things, then please provide. Read WP:Reliable sources.

InfernoHues (talk) 01:47, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

1> Please go read "khas people" wiki page

2> please go read the book "khas jaati ko itihaas" by famous balkrishna pokhrel

3> you talking about dol bahadur so please go read the section where it says "khas culture is distinct from indian vedic culture and that "bahun" identity evolved within the hills of nepal". now tell me what does it mean?

4> dr baburam achrya another writer in his books - exact line "khas migrated from the idavitt(kashmir/central asia region)" directly into the himalayan foothills.

5> bal krishna pokhrel - migration of khas from central asia throgh the northern mountain routes rather than the indian plains.

You are just making your own views and editing the page.

you said - "I put 14th century because that's what the source says" how about all these solid sources provided by me ....you ignored my sources saying bal krishna pokhrel is not a historian and in the "khas people" wiki page they put the source of balkrishna pokhrel, baburam achrya, dolraj bishta source but here in bahun page you ignoring same writers ... thats shows your bad faith as a editor. Manasludamase (talk) 01:56, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

1. You can't use other Wikipedia articles as sources.

2. Give me a quote and page number from Khas Jaatiko Itihaas and the information from there can be added.

3. "Khas culture is distinct from indian vedic culture." and "bahun identity evolved within the hills of nepal." - This does not contradict the article.

4. Give a specific book, quote, and page number from Baburam Acharya and it can be used.

InfernoHues (talk) 02:02, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

These books are not free. you need to buy them. but i will try to search those. how come other wiki pages accepting same source and books which are not freely available in the internet? may be i need to learn a lot about wiki. i don't know. anyway

anyway i would like to mention another source. i can provide you 100s of sources. don't worry.

"Indigenous Khasa People of Nepal in Crisis" - by dol raj kafle PHD , department of history, Ratna Rajyalaxmi Campus, T.U.

and the link is

https://www.nepjol.info/index.php/hj/article/download/52957/39624/156671

Please download the pdf and

go to page 3, headline: Origin, Development, and Expansion of the Khasa Manasludamase (talk) 02:22, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

That seems like a good source. I will take a look once the Arbitration Enforcement process I started is complete (see your talk page). InfernoHues (talk) 02:31, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

Why there is no edit even after providing sources? who you being baised? why you traying to play with our original history and culture? Manasludamase (talk) 03:23, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

I told you that I will take a look after the Arbitration Enforcement process I started against you is complete. See here: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Manasludamase. You should probably give a statement there. InfernoHues (talk) 03:40, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

Just in case you check here more often, the administrators have asked you more questions at the link I gave above. InfernoHues (talk) 20:34, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

did you correct the page information? please just tell me what else should i provide you to correct the page information? i am not able to understand anything at all. my purpose here is just to correct information. Manasludamase (talk) 00:53, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Please respond here: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Manasludamase. I will take a look at your request after that is complete. I reported you to the administrators for making attacks against me, and they are discussing there. InfernoHues (talk) 00:59, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Also, I don't know why you tried to cite books you don't have access to? You can cite non-free books as long as you have access to them. InfernoHues (talk) 02:32, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

i have these books here with me and i read all these but i cant find free pdf book in the internet to show you. anyway i will try to find in the internet and will show to you. Manasludamase (talk) 02:51, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

You can just type out quotes from the book, as long as you give the book and page number. InfernoHues (talk) 02:57, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi Manasludamase, I've read the paper you provided. I don't think it really says anything that contradicts the article. What do you want to change? InfernoHues (talk) 19:59, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

go to page 3 of that pdf, headline: Origin, Development, and Expansion of the Khasa

It clearly describe about our origin. Manasludamase (talk) 05:42, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

also please follow this link

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358238748_Cultural_Tourism_A_Review_of_Karnali

download the pdf

go to page 6

Origin of Khasaryan people of Nepal

you will see the table with our surnames and origin places Manasludamase (talk) 05:47, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

I think you've misunderstood. What do you want to change in the article text? InfernoHues (talk) 13:08, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

References

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“Change Bahun (Nepali: बाहुन), also known as Hill Brahmins,[3] are a Brahmin varna among the Khas of Nepal.[citation needed] While their origins are disputed, the traditional view is that they arrived from India during the fourteenth century. Janajati activists usually view the Khas Aryas as migrants, while most Khas Arya academics-cum-activists claim that the group has always lived in Nepal.[4] According to the 2011 Nepal census, Bahun is the second most populous group after Chhetri.[5] to Bahun (Nepali: बाहुन), also known as Hill Brahmins, are a Brahmin group within the Khas community of Nepal. They belong to the Indo-Aryan linguistic group which is part of the broader Indo-Iranian language family.Bahuns were historically associated with priestly and scholarly roles and known for conserving the Vedic traditions. According to the 2011 Nepal census, they are the second most populous group after Chhetri. Bahuns along side with Chhetris were original inhabitants of Far Western and Karnali region of Nepal and historically linked to groups that migrated into the western Himalayan region from the Indian subcontinent over time. Nishit Aryal (talk) 06:39, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Day Creature (talk) 16:05, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

1. Khas Bahuns and the Debate on Migration: A Historical Reassessment

The history of the Khas Bahun community remains one of the most debated subjects in Himalayan historiography. A dominant narrative often claims that Khas Bahuns migrated from the Indian plains into Nepal during medieval Muslim invasions. However, several historians, cultural researchers, and indigenous scholars argue that this theory is oversimplified and historically weak. According to this alternative interpretation, the Khas Bahuns are an ancient Himalayan people whose roots in the western Himalayan region long predate the medieval migrations from the Gangetic plains.

The term “Khas” itself appears in ancient Sanskrit and Himalayan records. Historical references connect the Khas people with a broad Himalayan belt stretching from present-day Kashmir, Uttarakhand, Himachal, and western Nepal. Ancient and medieval records describe Khas polities, republics, and kingdoms existing in these mountain regions centuries before the Delhi Sultanate or Mughal expansions. ([Wikipedia][1])

Many modern scholars distinguish between two separate processes:

1. The ancient presence of the Khas people in the Himalayas. 2. Later arrivals of some Brahmin families from the Indian plains.

This distinction is important because the migration of a limited number of priestly families does not necessarily prove that the entire Khas Bahun population originated from the plains.

A study published in the *KMC Journal* argues that the Khas Arya community has resided in western Nepal “for thousands of years” and preserved ritual traditions distinct from southern Hindu Aryan traditions. The paper presents the Khas as an indigenous Himalayan civilization rather than a recently migrated group. ([Nepal Journals Online][2])

Similarly, an article in *New Spotlight Magazine* discussing Dr. Bipin Adhikari’s work on the Khas community directly challenges the popular belief that Khas people migrated into Nepal to escape Muslim rule in India. The article notes that historical evidence places Khas communities in the Himalayan region long before the rise of the Mughal Empire. It further argues that while some Brahmins may indeed have entered Nepal during medieval instability in India, “the vast majorities are still Khas people.” ([SpotlightNepal][3])

The historical existence of the Khasa Malla Kingdom in western Nepal also strengthens the argument for an old Himalayan Khas identity. The Khasa Malla rulers governed parts of western Nepal between the 11th and 14th centuries, well before many of the alleged migration waves from the plains. Historical sources also connect the Khas people with the Katyuri rulers of Kumaon and other Himalayan states. ([Wikipedia][1])

Another important point is linguistic continuity. The Nepali language itself was historically known as *Khas Kura*, meaning “language of the Khas.” Until the 19th century, the region was often referred to as *Khas Desh* (country of the Khas). These facts suggest that the Khas identity was deeply rooted in the Himalayan region and not merely an imported identity from the plains. ([Wikipedia][1])

At the same time, it is necessary to acknowledge that mainstream academic scholarship does not entirely reject migration theories. Some historians and anthropologists argue that Indo-Aryan-speaking Khas groups may have entered the Himalayan belt from the northwest in ancient times, possibly centuries or millennia before recorded medieval history. ([Wikipedia][1]) However, this is very different from the popular claim that Khas Bahuns are simply recent refugees from the Indian plains during Muslim invasions.

Therefore, a balanced historical interpretation would state:

• The Khas civilization has ancient roots in the Himalayan region.
• Khas Bahuns developed within this broader Khas society.
• Some later Brahmin migrations from the plains likely occurred, but they do not fully explain the origin of the Khas Bahun population.
• The simplistic theory that all Khas Bahuns migrated recently from the Indian plains is historically disputed and lacks universal scholarly acceptance.

In conclusion, the evidence from Himalayan history, Khas kingdoms, linguistic traditions, and recent scholarship strongly suggests that the Khas Bahuns are not merely migrants from the Indian plains but are deeply connected to the indigenous historical development of the western Himalayan region. The migration theory, especially in its simplified political form, fails to capture the complexity and antiquity of Khas identity.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khas_people?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Khas people" [2]: https://www.nepjol.info/index.php/kmcj/article/view/62328?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Uncovering the Indigenous Khas Legacy of Resilience and Transformation in Western Nepal | KMC Journal" [3]: https://www.spotlightnepal.com/2015/02/14/nepal-ka-khas-jaati/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Nepal Ka Khas Jaati | New Spotlight Magazine"

Referring to unreliable and disputed evidence about Bahuns

The article mentioning that Bahuns migrated from India is an unreliable source. Majority edit requests have clarified that Khas-Bahuns are native to the Karnali region of Nepal and are indigenous to the Western Himalayas in Nepal. Nish Aryal (talk) 08:03, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

Which specific source is unreliable? Most of the edit requests have not provided their own reliable sources. InfernoHues (talk) 12:55, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 May 2026

Khas Bahuns are not plain brahmins and there is no proof of migration, it is just a theory. Please correct your information. Karan666333 (talk) 09:34, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LizardJr8 (talk) 14:00, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 June 2026

Change:

“While their origins are disputed, the traditional view is that they arrived from India during the fourteenth century. Janajati activists usually view the Khas Aryas as migrants, while most Khas Arya academics-cum-activists claim that the group has always lived in Nepal.”

To:

While the origins of the Bahun community remain debated, Bahuns are traditionally regarded as part of the wider Khas-Arya population that became prominent in Western Nepal during the Khasa Malla period.

Some historians trace the ancestry of Hill Brahmins to migrations from the Western Himalayas and northern Indian regions such as Kannauj, whereas others emphasize the long historical presence of Khas-speaking population within Nepal. Nish Aryal (talk) 06:24, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Not done for now: Please give page numbers for the cited books. InfernoHues (talk) 12:39, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Source 1  and 3 is page 22

Source 2 is page 112 Nish Aryal (talk) 18:29, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done - The sources do not back up the text. InfernoHues (talk) 19:35, 27 June 2026 (UTC)