Talk:Avocado

Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2026

~2026-72893-8 (talk) 15:19, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

avacados are pink

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. jolielover♥talk 15:49, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Verifiability issue

@Bella Yisraeli: On 11 May you added the following text:

Israel is a major avocado producer and exporter, growing several varieties, with Hass being the most popular globally and Ettinger being a prominent green variety in the local market. Other varieties grown include Galil, Pinkerton, Fuerte, Reed, and newer types like Lamb Hass, Gem, and Maluma.

Approximately 40% to 55% of Israel's avocado production remains within the domestic market for local consumption, even though the industry is heavily export-oriented. Estimates indicate that Israeli avocados account for approximately 30% of the European winter market.

The first reference does not include all the varieties named in the Wikipedia text (ie: Gem and Maluma unless they are present under different names). There is also not the information on global and local markets.

The figure of 40% to 55% of the produce remaining in Israel does not appear to derive from source #2. Is this meant to match About half the fruit is sold domestically and half exported?

The figure of a 30% market share in Europe during winter also does not appear to be in the cited source.

Have I missed information in the sources that support what you've added? 🏰 Richard Nevell (talk) 20:46, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

AI had stated this information and provided the source. I have since decided to use a different source and to provide similar but different information in regard to Israeli avocado exports to Europe and the kinds of avocados which are cultivated in Israel. Thank you! Bella Yisraeli (talk) 19:55, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

@Bella Yisraeli: as of March Wikipedia:Writing articles with large language models has been in effect as policy. It says the use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited and that is largely because of situations like this. Please do not use LLMs to produce Wikipedia content in future, and I strongly suggest that if you have used it elsewhere you should remove that text. 🏰 Richard Nevell (talk) 19:47, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Point well taken. What I changed in the avocado article was not taken from a large language model. Bella Yisraeli (talk) 11:05, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

References

Removal of edits regarding cultivation in countries.

I think your information used to justify the removal of the edits regarding countries of cultivation is incorrect. You state that neither Kenya nor Israel are top producers. Both are in the top 10 in the world. My edits were deleted within minutes of adding them. My sources are meticulously researched, and include government publications of the countries of the United States and Israel. I was researching the rest of the top 10 when you deleted the entire section. Please discuss. 1969camaro12121966 (talk) 19:29, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Reverted with Special:Diff/1358905187. It's unclear why regions not shown in the production table need to be discussed under 'cultivation' as part of the article, WP:NOTEVERYTHING. For Israel and Kenya, although likely significant to the individual countries, the production volumes are insufficient to be notable among major producers. The encyclopedia is intended for mainstream facts, not details for all individual countries that grow avocados. Zefr (talk) 19:42, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. If production in some countries should be trimmed, fine, but what did the cultivars ever do to you? Avocado production in Mexico is important enough for the cartels to try to take it over, so the readership will be looking for it. Abductive (reasoning) 18:08, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

Abductive -The subsections on production in California, Chile and Israel are cherry-picked to highlight the respective national industry whose volumes are too low to qualify for ranking in the production table. The subsection for Kenya says what the table reports.

Reviewing all of the country sections under 'Cultivation by location', the information is just wordy fluff, long out of date, and WP:UNDUE - the reason for the large deletion. Zefr (talk) 18:20, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

Agree. Which editor(s) decide what is deemed “Enough production to be significant?” There are WP articles listing over 20 top countries for production of an agricultural product. The avocado article deserves exactly 6? Massive total production is not the only thing important to readers. There is production on different continents, of different types of avocados bearing different amounts, within different sized economies and differing government types. 1969camaro12121966 (talk) 19:20, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

I suggest keeping the top three producers. Also, some kind of nod to California; at least the bits about it being the state fruit and the origin of the Hass. The cultivars stay unless somebody wants to make a Category:Lists of cultivars, and split it off. Abductive (reasoning) 20:18, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

Again, good edits reverted without discussion. The 2025 data is out, but the UN site (FAOSTAT) has been dead for a week. As such, I did use Eximpedia, that does have a pay section, but also has a public section that is sourced to the UN data for 2025 that is cited in the article for 2024. I again suggest that the top ten countries should be listed, and frankly that more than that would be better. Global warming is affecting production, and production may be moving north in areas. So again we are randomly left with the top 6 countries, and data from a year before what is sited. There is a seperate article listing top avocado producers in the world. I suggest a merge of the two that I will discuss in the proper place. 1969camaro12121966 (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2026 (UTC)

"Wikipedia is an encyclopedic reference, not an instruction manual, guidebook, or textbook", i.e., we present summary information for a common user (a grandmother, a teenager), not a "top 10 list" which would include minor country producers. The FAOSTAT site will eventually be restored, and remains the official world reference for agriculture production.

If you have further sources addressing the stress on production due to global warming - a highly relevant issue for such a water-demanding crop (refs up to 2022 in the lede) - those would be welcomed, and would justify a separate section. Zefr (talk) 00:55, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Respectfully, I fully understand what Wikipedia is. Again, do not understand the arbitrary list of 6. This has been discussed multiple times by multiple editors. If one doesn’t like lists, why have one at all? Because the list gives “the common user” “(a grandmother, a teenager)” (which Wikipedia is not limited to) an interesting reference regarding the places around the world where this valuable product grows, and excites the mind as to why they grow there. I am not suggesting the article be limited to a list as has been implied. There is another article, that no-one seems to oppose, that is exactly that list. I am not a botanist. I am a doctor of medicine and find the expanded table with more than 6 entries useful. I cannot understand why a PhD would want less information or less discussion. I will suggest the list of Avocado producers be merged into this article as makes sense, after wider discussion. 1969camaro12121966 (talk) 02:00, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

The purpose of the 'See also' link under 'Production' is to lead the reader to a longer table, if of interest.

We do not need to describe everything about production in the main article ("not a complete presentation of all possible details, but a summary"). Zefr (talk) 02:38, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

I Oppose these removals. Avocado production Mexico and in California are important for history, independent of where they fall on the current production. RS-referenced content is not 'cherry-picked' unless there is evidence that well-sourced info on other production areas was intentionally exlcuded.Dialectric (talk) 21:17, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

"Stoneless avocado" listed at Redirects for discussion

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