Talk:Atlanta Motor Speedway

Requested move 3 June 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. There is consensus that it is too soon for a move (non-admin closure) Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 13:26, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

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Atlanta Motor Speedway → EchoPark SpeedwayEchoPark Speedway – The track was renamed to this today. I'm guessing it probably makes sense to move it there as that is its name, but wanted to open an RM to see if there were dissenting opinions as it's been called Atlanta Motor Speedway for a bit. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 15:43, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Oppose – due to the fact that it could violate WP:PROMO and WP:COMMONNAME. The Atlanta Motor Speedway name is more commonly used for the track, and the EchoPark sponsorship deal is currently only for seven years. Kinda the opposite of Auto Club Speedway, in a way. MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk) 16:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Not sure how it could run afoul of PROMO at all, nothing in there prohibits changing to entitlement names, but agreed on COMMONNAME, it's too soon. glman (talk) 16:32, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Oppose – Not the WP:COMMONNAME yet. No need to rush, let's wait and see if it gets used enough to be the common name before moving. glman (talk) 16:30, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

There is no need to wait and confuse people; there is a history of NASCAR and its industry quickly promoting and adopting names like World Wide Technology Raceway, Infineon Raceway, Lowe's Motor Speedway, Auto Club Speedway, etc. 146.115.179.230 (talk) 02:27, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Also, EchoPark is part of Sonic Automotive which is a Smith family company, as is SMI, the owner of the track...this name will stay as long as EchoPark exists. 146.115.179.230 (talk) 02:29, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

NASCAR clearly has not promptly adopted the names you mentioned, considering WWT Raceway is still commonly referred to as Gateway and the Wiki article is names as such. Sonic Auto is a publicly traded company, and the deal is specifically for 7 years at the moment. As mentioned elsewhere, NASCAR sources are still referring to the track as AMS at the moment. This will not cause confusion. EchoPark Speedway redirects to this page, and we mention the sponsored name in the lead. glman (talk) 14:22, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Oppose – not WP:COMMONNAME yet and as HumanBodyPiloter said on Gateway, "Ephemeral sponsored names lead to unstable page titles and threaten the neutrality of the encyclopaedia". There's a reason Gateway Motorsports Park isn't World Wide Technology Raceway (see talk page listed in World Wide Technology Raceway). Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 17:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Support – Wikipedia guides us to make the change via Wikipedia:Article titles and with past practice with stadium sponsor naming conventions. Once the stadium ownership (or league/team) officially announces the name change, and it's widely reported by reliable sources, Wikipedia article titles are updated. Examples: Crypto.com Arena (formerly Staples Center), State Farm Stadium (formerly University of Phoenix Stadium), EverBank Stadium (formerly TIAA Bank Field), Rate Field (US Cellular Field, Comiskey Park, etc.) KD0710 (talk) 17:25, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't see a section of WP:TITLE that says "once the stadium ownership (or league/team) officially announces the name change, Wikipedia titles are updated" - could you link to that specific guideline? WP:OFFICIAL and WP:COMMONNAME seem to contradict what you're saying. glman (talk) 17:43, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

You missed the second half of this - and it's widely reported by reliable sources. It's all wrapped into one thing. We need both confirmation (not just rumors) and reporting. As mentioned, it's how ALL other major sports handle stadium rights. This should be no different.

"Sometimes the subject of an article will undergo a change of name. When this occurs, we give extra weight to independent, reliable, English-language sources ("reliable sources" for short) written after the name change. If the reliable sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name, Wikipedia should follow suit and change relevant titles to match."

The argument of WP:COMMONNAME isn't fitting here. Sources have acknowledged the change and refer to it as such . What's being argued is the colloquial name, which shouldn't matter. KD0710 (talk) 19:14, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I think there is a clear difference between this and other sport stadium name changes. Those are often from an entitlement name to another, while in this case, the track has been referred to as AMS for decades. WP:COMMONNAME absolutely applies here, current sources are just press releases, not usage in context. The sources you cite literally refer to the track as "Atlanta Motor Speedway". It's just WP:Recentism right now. No need to rush. We have not had time to see "if the reliable sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name". glman (talk) 19:23, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Comment – After yesterday's announcement, reliable sources are still referring to it as AMS/Atlanta in other announcements. MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk) 12:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Premature at best. WP:NAMECHANGES does allow preference to be given to sources published after the official renaming, but there is no evidence that the criteria there have been met here. Andrewa (talk) 09:42, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

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Requested move 31 December 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. heavily opposed. (non-admin closure) 45BearsFan (talk) 17:23, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

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Atlanta Motor Speedway → EchoPark SpeedwayEchoPark Speedway – As we're less than 12 hours away from 2026 in the est, given how not only the previous request was due to a mutual agreement on it being too soon, but how a quick google search of "atlanta motor speedway" effectively shows it as echopark speedway, nascar's website (and related ones such as the racing experience), along with others like TicketMaster and Explore Georgia, I feel like it's safe to say we can move it to echopark, given how google shows it as the common name. 45BearsFan (talk) 22:13, 31 December 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 01:23, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

• Leaning against. The nominator seems to be ignoring the basis of the lack of support for this renaming in the previous RM. It was not a matter of waiting until an official action occurred, and the sources identified by the nominator do not seem independent of the topic. From a Wikipedia policy & guidelines perspective, the arrival of 2026 changes nothing. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:54, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose. Neither TicketMaster nor Explore Georgia are secondary sources. Andrewa (talk) 22:21, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing, WikiProject Georgia (U.S. state)/Atlanta task force, WikiProject Georgia (U.S. state), WikiProject NASCAR, and WikiProject Sports/Facilities and venues task force have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPath^talk 01:23, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Oppose – At the moment, the name "EchoPark Speedway" will only be in use for seven years, and there's uncertainty about whether the name will be renewed or reverted to "Atlanta Motor Speedway." If the name is renewed as "EchoPark Speedway" beyond 2032, then the move would be appropriate. — MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk) 14:58, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.